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guyergenetics 08-10-2009, 10:03 AM The first clutch of Corns has begun to hatch.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8100014.jpg
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That there is a Blizzard!
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skm0308 08-10-2009, 10:08 AM Congrats, I'm looking forward to seeing what all you hatch this year, you've had some nice pairings. Keep us updated.
Mrs. Sputnik 08-10-2009, 11:03 AM Congrats
norsmis 08-10-2009, 11:14 AM Congrats bro! That blizzard looks cool!
janeothejungle 08-10-2009, 11:18 AM Congrats on the clutch! :yessir:
~Kat
nwheat 08-10-2009, 12:41 PM Congratulations!! :D
Southern Wolf 08-10-2009, 01:12 PM Congrats bubba.....
guyergenetics 08-12-2009, 09:57 PM Here's a nice baby pile of Okeetees, Reverse Okeetees, Charcoals, and Blizzards
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8120012.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8120006.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8120015.jpg
JChandler 08-12-2009, 10:06 PM Nice looking pile!
I always liked the anery b's for that one reason that you hatched right there :cheers:
Sputnik 08-13-2009, 01:11 AM Look at em all - congrats!
anendeloflorien 08-13-2009, 01:15 PM Congrats man! Some hot little babies there fo sho :D
BallPythons9 08-13-2009, 03:09 PM Those blizzards are pretty cool!
FloridaHogs 08-13-2009, 03:11 PM Nice stuff there!!!
147BOAS 08-14-2009, 01:33 AM congrats
guyergenetics 08-16-2009, 06:36 PM The Striped Motley X Butter Motley clutch has started hatching. I can't see the patterns yet, but all of these should be Motleys and Striped Motleys all het for Butter.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8160004-1.jpg
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Southern Wolf 08-16-2009, 07:30 PM and yet more fun to be had.
I think Tuesday is gonna be our fun day.... gonna seperate and sex what is currently out.
guyergenetics 08-18-2009, 11:33 PM My Creamscicle clutch has begun to hatch. Unfortunately for some unknown reason many of the eggs in this clutch went bad during incubation. This clutch was incubated exactly like the others so I don't know what happened.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8180009-1.jpg
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Now this is strange. Early on in the incubation this growth of fungus appeared on this one egg. It is nothing like the kind of mold that is usually seen on eggs when they go bad. I left it alone just to see what would happen. Well, that particular egg has pipped and as far as I can tell, the hatchling inside looks good. Wierd.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8180012-1.jpg
norsmis 08-19-2009, 05:33 AM Nice creamies!
My Creamscicle clutch has begun to hatch. Unfortunately for some unknown reason many of the eggs in this clutch went bad during incubation. This clutch was incubated exactly like the others so I don't know what happened.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8180009-1.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8180008.jpg
Now this is strange. Early on in the incubation this growth of fungus appeared on this one egg. It is nothing like the kind of mold that is usually seen on eggs when they go bad. I left it alone just to see what would happen. Well, that particular egg has pipped and as far as I can tell, the hatchling inside looks good. Wierd.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8180012-1.jpg
I had albino prairie king eggs with that same look. Only one of my females laid round eggs with the discolored band just like that----11 eggs and 10 hatched out, perfectly. The other female laid the all white oblong eggs.
guyergenetics 08-20-2009, 09:09 AM The Striped Motley X Butter Motley clutch has finished hatching.
Here's some baby pile shots:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8190018.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8190019.jpg
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They all turned out to be Motleys het Butter. Hatch rate was 19 out of 20 eggs.
norsmis 08-20-2009, 09:12 AM http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8190019.jpg
I like the little guy in the center of the tub with major 'tude! Cool looking clutch bro!
guyergenetics 08-20-2009, 09:17 AM The clutch from my quad het female (Amel, Anery, Hypo, Motley) has begun to hatch.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8190023.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8190027.jpg
The whole purpose of this breeding was to find out if my big 7yr old Normal male had anything hidden in his genotype or not.
Apparently he's het Amel.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8200008.jpg
guyergenetics 08-20-2009, 09:18 AM I like the little guy in the center of the tub with major 'tude! Cool looking clutch bro!
Thanks man! Appreciate the comments.
guyergenetics 08-20-2009, 09:26 AM I hope that I don't find this very often. This is a definite first for me:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P81900011.jpg
My Creamscicles are still hatching and I found a partially digested regurgitated Cream in the box. One of the others had to have grabbed and eaten a sibling just as soon as it came out of the egg! I have no idea who the culprit is, but we've got a cannibal Corn!
That's why I separate the kings as soon as they come out of the egg! Sorry for the loss. Now to find the little glutton and give him a pink! good luck!
guyergenetics 08-20-2009, 08:07 PM The first clutch of Outcross Blood X Outcross Blood has begun to hatch. 1/4 of these should be Bloodreds. I also just found out that the Grandfather to these is het Amel, so we might have a shot at some Fires out of this clutch.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8200002-1.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8200004.jpg
Cool. Can't wait to see the final results and the pics to go with them!
guyergenetics 08-20-2009, 08:44 PM That's why I separate the kings as soon as they come out of the egg! Sorry for the loss. Now to find the little glutton and give him a pink! good luck!
It looks like I started quite the discussion about this incident over on Kingsnake.com forums.
I am starting to lean heavily towards the idea that this was not an incident of cannabilism and regurgitation but rather an incident of a not formed twin being drug out of the egg by a fully formed sibling.
The smell that is normally associated with regurgitation was not present.
I can't be 100% sure either way, but this was a first for me.
well there is no mistaking the smell of a regurg.....putrid is close....LMAO could be the twin theory, it sounds entirely possible.....
guyergenetics 08-21-2009, 04:15 PM The Ghost X Anery clutch has begun to pop open.
The Ghost is het Amel, The Anery mom is supposedly a multi het. We'll see I suppose.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8210002.jpg
147BOAS 08-21-2009, 04:24 PM congrats guyer they are all sweet
pwilliams58 08-21-2009, 04:27 PM Great babies...weird about that regurge though...
guyergenetics 08-23-2009, 07:54 PM The clutch from my quad het female has finished hatching and I've sorted out the babies. I'm happy to report that we got 18 hatchlings out of 18 eggs in this clutch. Also, the Normal Male that I bred to the quad het is now a known het Amel.
The funny thing is the Amels that came out of this pairing. They are bright orange and look like Creamscicles but there is no Emoryi blood present. These are pure Corn.
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Very nice litter! Congrats!
Mrs. Sputnik 08-23-2009, 11:38 PM Congrats
guyergenetics 08-24-2009, 09:59 AM I was really afraid that people wouldn't believe that these are pure corn and not Creams. The fact that I have a Creamscicle clutch hatching at the same time sure doesn't help my credibility here. I don't have a clue what's going to happen to the colors in these 'Orange Amels' as they mature. I'm going to hold back a few just to see. Also in the future I will cross these into other bloodlines to see if the different coloration has any effect on the designer morphs.
I think that my Creamscicle clutch and maybe the first Bloodred clutch has finished hatching..at least it looked like it when I walked by them this morning. I'll get baby pile pics and get them sorted after I get out of bed later today.
Thanks for the comments.
ssshane 08-24-2009, 01:32 PM Nice clutch. The amels are a very orange color. If I didn't know you better... just kidding. It will be interesting to see them grow.
guyergenetics 08-24-2009, 09:20 PM Had a run of bad luck with the Creamscicles.
Only 7 out of 20 eggs even hatched. Of those, not one, but two of them drug unformed twins out of the egg with them. Then one of the seven was found dead today for no apparant reason. Then of the remaining six, five of them were deformed with bellies not together and guts coming out. One of those even already had maggots up inside the abdominal cavity while it was alive. Those five became Kingsnake food and I ended up with only one healthy looking baby out of the whole mess.
I don't think that I'll pair that male with that female ever again.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8240004.jpg
ssshane 08-24-2009, 09:25 PM Wow, that is some bad luck. Wonder what caused that? Was is their first time breeding together?
guyergenetics 08-24-2009, 09:35 PM Yep, first and LAST time being paired together.
I WAS having a good season too. This last little incident was enough to piss off the pope. Especially since I had the entire clutch spoken for and wasn't even going to have to work for the sale.
Oh well.
guyergenetics 08-25-2009, 09:08 PM Here's a baby pile of one Bloodred with some Outcrosses and some Normals:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8250005-1.jpg
Here's a view of the first Bloodred I ever hatched:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8250012.jpg
The same day that I sorted that clutch, the second clutch of possible Bloodreds started hatching!
And the first baby to break the confines of its egg is a Bloodred!
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8250004.jpg
norsmis 08-26-2009, 05:13 AM Congrats on the bloods bro!
Yeah! Great job and congrats!
guyergenetics 08-26-2009, 08:21 PM Thanks guys!
Pairing up that Ghost het Amel to that multi-het Anery turned out to be a great pairing!
Here's a baby pile of 2 Ghost Motleys, 2 Anery Motleys, 1 Ghost, 2 Snows, and 2 Anerys:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8260001-1.jpg
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Huge Congrats! Some great clutches!
skm0308 08-26-2009, 08:48 PM Interesting season, thanks for sharing. :cheers:
guyergenetics 08-27-2009, 08:50 PM Thanks!
The first clutch out of my Lavender Motley project started popping a couple of days ago. I wanted to wait until I saw a Lavender poking its head out of an egg before I took the photos.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8270003.jpg
guyergenetics 08-28-2009, 09:00 PM Now this is a very pleasent surprise!!!
Out of my second Outcross X Outcross pairing, the clutch hatched an unusually high number of Bloodreds and three Hypo Bloodreds!!!!!
I hatched out both parents and have no idea where the Hypomelanism came from, but I'm not complaining!
Here's some baby pile shots of Hypo Bloodreds, Bloodreds, Outcrosses, and Normals:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8280002.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8280005.jpg
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norsmis 08-28-2009, 09:02 PM Congrats on the hidden hypo gene bro! They look awesome!
Larry 08-28-2009, 09:17 PM Hey Guy, awesome thread man thanks for sharing. Heres to a great season...:rockon:
guyergenetics 08-28-2009, 09:31 PM Thanks!!
It's been a season of ups and downs and lots of surprises!!
We're not done yet either. I still have a lot left to hatch out. Hopefully we'll get some more pleasant surprises!!
guyergenetics 08-30-2009, 08:44 PM Those orange colored Amels that I hatched that came out of the egg looking like Creamscicles have undergone quite a color change during their first shed. Now they are all a pretty bright red. Are these Flourescents?
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8300012.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8300011.jpg
JChandler 08-30-2009, 09:28 PM They look like nice line bred amels to me...mine have a super clean look them also but I won't put anything extra on them.
guyergenetics 08-31-2009, 10:24 PM That's kind of what I was leaning towards but I needed other's opinions on these. i appreciate the input Jeff. I bred het to het to get them so I wasn't really sure which way to go with them.
The first clutch of the Lavender Motley project has been sorted.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8310002.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8310006.jpg
I didn't get any Lavender Motleys out of this but I did get this Zig Zag Lavender:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P8310003.jpg
Unfortunately though it has a bit of a spine kink. I'm going to hold onto it for a bit and see if it grows out of it.
We still have one more clutch of possible Lavender Mots to go that should start popping at any time and also a couple of doubleclutches. I hatched Lavender Motleys last year and we will get them again this year!
guyergenetics 09-01-2009, 09:28 AM The clutch from my Silverqueen has been hatching. I bred her to one of the Ghosts from my own line.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9010001.jpg
The babies are coming out looking just Anerytheristic. I'm going to have to wait until they shed a couple of times to see what their colors are going to do and if the Hypomelanism comes out. If they stay just Anery and no Hypo is visible then doesn't that mean that I bred two different forms of Hypomelanism together?
I'm afraid that I may have taken my Ghost line a step backwards with this project but we'll have to wait and see.
Also, the second clutch of the Lavender Motley project has begun to hatch.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9010007.jpg
You can see a Lavender head poking out over on the right.
ssshane 09-01-2009, 09:41 AM Looks good. Keep'em coming!
guyergenetics 09-01-2009, 09:46 AM Looks good. Keep'em coming!
Ok. We're not done yet :rockon:
guyergenetics 09-03-2009, 11:53 AM The Amel X Bloodred clutch has started hatching. This is the start of a two generation process to make Fires.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9020002-1.jpg
guyergenetics 09-03-2009, 08:24 PM I sorted out 12 babies from 13 eggs from the Silverqueen clutch. They all came out Anery and I bred Ghost to Ghost so it would appear that I've got two different forms of Hypomelanism going on. It's going to take some breeding trials to figure this one out.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9030002.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9030003.jpg
guyergenetics 09-08-2009, 12:04 AM I'm a bit behind on all of my internet activities due to having to take time to work on my water pump in my well. Not having running water kind of sucked. So that's why these are being posted a bit on the late side.
The second clutch of the Lavender Motley project finished hatching. Here's a baby pile of a couple of Lavender mots, a couple of Lavenders, Mots, and Normals:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9060001.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9060004.jpg
And also here is a baby pile of het Fires:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9060008.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9060011.jpg
guyergenetics 09-08-2009, 09:00 PM And we saved the best for last....well until the doubleclutches start hatching next month anyway.
These are younger full siblings to the first clutch I ever hatched. There be Hypos, Anerys, Normals, and MY Ghosts in this one.
Haven't seen any of the Ghosts pop out yet, but they'll be in there.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9080002.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9080006.jpg
guyergenetics 09-09-2009, 10:42 AM Here's a bit more of that clutch popping open
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9090002.jpg
Introducing the 2009 Guyer Ghost
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9090004.jpg
skm0308 09-09-2009, 08:57 PM Sweet, can't wait to see these guys out of the eggs.
guyergenetics 09-12-2009, 09:13 AM Here's some baby pile shots of my favorite clutch:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9110001.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9110002.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/jguyer1/P9110003.jpg
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