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Eric Burke
09-26-2009, 10:15 PM
I am trying to map out my projects on paper and had a few questions on the genetics of the tiger and how it interacts with other genes. I think it is neither co-dom or recessive but rather a mix of genes. If you look around at some guys results it is not as cut 'n' dry as say a pastel ball.
I am mapping out the following projects:
1. super tigers-
are super tigers designated by a solid stripe head to tail?

2. tiger jags
3. caramel jags
4. caramel tiger jags
5. super tiger jags

super tigers are from breeding tiger x tiger.
tiger jags are from tiger x jag...I would think you would get tigers, jags,
tiger jags and normals.
How would you tell which one is a jag and which one is a tiger jag....
just a reduced pattern?
If that is the case then I would think it's the tiger gene that reduces the pattern and by breeding a tiger x tiger jag would further reduce the pattern.....and that would give you the super tiger jag.
Would you still get tigers, jags and tiger-jags from this clutch?

And if you add the caramel gene....is this what you would get in theory?
Caramel x tiger jag....... = caramels, tigers, jags, caramel-tigers, caramel-jags, caramel tiger-jags and normals.

I bought a 1.2 group of coastals from Jason Baylin that where from his
tiger-jag sib x tiger-jag sib.
I think that if I breed these guys they will have some tigers in the group.
I don't think that being a sib holds some magic key but I just don't think it is as straight ahead as we might think. IMHO.
The more these guys grow you can see the tiger influence in them...
It's just my dinker project to help me better understand the genetics...
Fingers crossed

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Carpets rule!

Mattyboy525
09-27-2009, 05:23 AM
Anthony Caponetto started a thread on Moreliapythons.com explaining how he feels about Tiger genetics. This is what makes the most sense to me. Check it out...http://www.moreliapythons.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25050

jonf
09-27-2009, 10:26 AM
I don't think that being a sib holds some magic key but I just don't think it is as straight ahead as we might think.

forgive me for mentioned BP's here but I believe that sibs are/were a key to the platinum puzzle, so you never know!!

But yeah, see the previous post. There have been some pretty heated threads over there. I would get some popcorn and just be prepared to sit and read!

Eric Burke
09-27-2009, 07:41 PM
Good point!
I am gonna try to think out loud.
I think you could sort of compare the tiger to the platty but correct me if I am wrong in order to make the platty daddy you need the sibs?
Obviously, there is something there other than your basic co-dom or recessive genetics at play.
You can make a tiger without tiger sibs though.

I guess i might have contradicted myself a bit when I said i was breeding a group of coastals that were from a tiger-jag sib x tiger -jag sib and hoping to get tigers .........I think I explained my thoughts incorrectly.
I think that the tiger genetics has a little more going on then say a jag.
jag x normals = jags, "sibs" - my thinking is that this sib is just a normal coastal..some are very nice and may even have jag features but they are still just normal coastals...
That would be your standard co-dom trait.
If you use ball pythons as an ex.
pastel x normals = pastels, NORMALS....they are not pastel sibs.
Make any sense?

I can't wait to breed these guys to see what happens.