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The crowd "the people" have voted into office are about to make the changes they have been fighting for for years.

Here is the story;

"It is now closer to reality than you think

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.

One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.

In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.

"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.

"Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

The judge sentences you to life in prison.

This case really happened.

On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.

How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?

It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.

Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.

Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed Man with a Kalashnikov rifle (AK-47), walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)

Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.

For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens.

During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.

Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."

All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.

When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.

How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kinda like cars.

Sound familiar? "

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you. But if you try to get into my house in the middle of the night unannounced, you'll get the same treatment, except you won't have the advantage of hearing a round get racked into the chamber. I don't mind spending time for something I believe in. Just my, I fought for MY freedom, opinion.

Quig

LOL, I think my PTSD just kicked in

We better start working on our tomahawk skills!

We better start working on our tomahawk skills!

LOL, already got that and the knife down pat.

im with quig. i garauntee that you invade my house ill fine something that will make sure you dont do it again and future people will be weary of it as well :machinegun:

This is why we have a shovel and a basement :machinegun:

This is why we have a shovel and a basement :machinegun:

and jeff has a crawlspace lol

just blow the legs off of them and call the cops. LMao

The U.S. is morphing into Europe, the writing is on the walls, especially with the election our new President Elect Obama. Thats exactly what "Change" means.

Don't get me wrong I love our euro brothers and sisters, I just don't agree with the way the governments are ran over there. Thats not saying much because hell I don't agree with the way ours is headed either.

When it comes to defending my family. I'll take care of business and afterwards do my time with pride.. In the same matter I would if someone were to ever harm one of my children.

Lets face it

It's about time for another Boston Tea Party

Lets face it

It's about time for another Boston Tea Party

I think we're overdue actually:yourock:

This is why we have a shovel and a basement :machinegun:

No offense Liz, but if it's in the basement it's to far away :-)

No offense Liz, but if it's in the basement it's to far away :-)
Not here its not lol

Not here its not lol

LOL, that's right, I DID read something about a crawl space http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/QuigsPlace/rofl5.gif

Don't bury anything in your own basement. That's just asking for trouble isn't it Larry? Get the shovel, some type of a flammable liquid. Lighter fluid is better than gas, because the gas might flare up and burn you. Have a little fire in a hole you dig and bury whatever piece of garbage means you or your family harm. That's all. It's really not that complicated. That's why they invented shovels. And lastly, don't ask anyone to help you. Nobody.

LOL, that's right, I DID read something about a crawl space http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/QuigsPlace/rofl5.gif
That was at jeffs house we have the basement

Don't bury anything in your own basement. That's just asking for trouble isn't it Larry? Get the shovel, some type of a flammable liquid. Lighter fluid is better than gas, because the gas might flare up and burn you. Have a little fire in a hole you dig and bury whatever piece of garbage means you or your family harm. That's all. It's really not that complicated. That's why they invented shovels. And lastly, don't ask anyone to help you. Nobody.
WHo needs fire???? Bury.......wait I cannot reveal my secrets:nono:

Thankfully Florida passed legislation making it legal to protect your life and property with lethal force. As for the rest. I think we are a long way from losing our rights of gun ownership in this country. The NRA is one of the most powerful lobbyist in the country. As for Obama. He's the President. Just one piece of the political puzzle. Our government is based on a three house system. Checks and balances folks. One man does not make the laws by himself. This ain't no dictatorship we're living in. Give it a rest already. JP

Fire burns fibers and nearly all trace evidence. If a DOG harms you or your loved ones, after seeing what has happened to more than one guy just protecting himself, or those he loves, why would anyone risk being victimized by a perverted legal system that bends over backwards to free the guilty, and all too often punishes the innocent for protecting his own?

Our government is based on a three house system.

Which is mostly filled with Democrats at the moment :D It may not happen any time in the immediate future, but I believe it will happen. I'm an NRA member and I trust them to keep up the fight. I'm just not sure it's enough. Again, just my opinion.

Quig

I've already got my colt ar-15, and kimber 1911. All I need now is my remington model 700. It's coming soon..

Alan

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we must protect our 2nd amendment... and the right to keep boas and pythons :) NRA and USARK, my two favorite organizations.

:lol: That's a GREAT pic!!!

Thankfully Florida passed legislation making it legal to protect your life and property with lethal force. As for the rest. I think we are a long way from losing our rights of gun ownership in this country. The NRA is one of the most powerful lobbyist in the country. As for Obama. He's the President. Just one piece of the political puzzle. Our government is based on a three house system. Checks and balances folks. One man does not make the laws by himself. This ain't no dictatorship we're living in. Give it a rest already. JP

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

Amen brother...

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

:yessir::yourock:

This is already in the US. A man in Illinois was being prosecuted for defending his home from a burglar, being charged with manslaughter. A bill was brought before the Illinois state senate to make it legal to defend your home, even if there are local laws prohibiting guns.. Obama voted AGAINST the measure. Just goes to show you what he wants for the country.

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

I never said that I don't think we should be able to protect our homes or our families nor did I say that I don't think that we as a country are in some serious **** right now. Nor did I say I support any one party or the other. I am just getting tired of the "this is the end of our way of life crap". Its getting tired. Regardless if you support the new President or not the fact is that for at least the next 4 years or the remainder of his life, which ever comes first, he is the commander and chief. And if you are still active then that makes him your boss. The question I guest is if you are willing to follow your oath and follow him where ever he may take you or if you will stand up for what you truly believe is right. Now as for your sacrifice and that of the others that have lost everything to the war I salute you and I appreciate everything that has been done in the name of our country and democracy :master: Jeffrey Poe

When you are a soldier you dont have an opinion, you have orders. I am retired so I have my opinion back. When I was active, i kept my mouth shut like a good soldier should.
And thanks for supporting the troops....

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

:yessir::yessir::yessir::machinegun::yessir::yessir::yessir:

I am currently in the military and now that he is the commander in chief I will still do my duty and follow his orders. Normsis is correct on the fact he served and now has a voice and yes I truly believe he has earned the right above and beynd the average to speak his piece!!


Now keep this in mind as a soldier i dont have to like it i just have to do it.
following orders does not mean you have to agree with them. Any soldier will tell you ill go to war for the man and obey orders but don't try and take the guns away that you have ordered me to do my job with!


Whether its congress, the president, or a special group I joined to defend my country aganst ALL enemies foriegn or domestic and to defend the constitution of the united states! this constitution that states I have the right to bear arms and the freedom of speech. I may have givin up many fredoms while defending my country but still want those freedoms i serve to protect when I am done and retired!

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

AMEN to this and thanks for defending the country
:yessir::yessir::yessir::machinegun::yessir::yessir::yessir: Go BRO :yourock:

A throw away 22 is cheap insurance ! The guy had a gun and I shot him with my registered shotgun with oo buck ! If he gets by my man eating dog and the gator in the hall ? :rockon:

It's all about less government hands in my business period!

If I want an entire walk in gun vault with enough ammo to supply a small militant army then I should be allowed to without the government putting restrictions on which ones and how many one person should be allowed to have. They are getting there cut with the sales tax and cc permits on my end and more than that on the sellers end.

Why should it be up to someone in government what I can and can't have?

It's all about less government hands in my business period!

If I want an entire walk in gun vault with enough ammo to supply a small militant army then I should be allowed to without the government putting restrictions on which ones and how many one person should be allowed to have. They are getting there cut with the sales tax and cc permits on my end and more than that on the sellers end.

Why should it be up to someone in government what I can and can't have? I agree and we have the right to bear arms so why is it so damn hard to do so??

http://www.redwoodreptiles.com/images/Rhet_7088.jpg

we must protect our 2nd amendment... and the right to keep boas and pythons :) NRA and USARK, my two favorite organizations.

Damn now that is a sweet sight to behold...:master:

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

Yessir...

:wamma::wamma::wamma::wamma:

Give it a rest already? I dont think so. When we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. And if you think for one minute the rest of the democrats wont follow suite with Obama, you need to do some more reading on Mr. Obama's and the democratic party's ideology.....

I fought, and bled, for this country as many others here have. One of those rights I fought for is to bear arms. This country was founded because of the tyranny of the "mother country". It seems now we are trying to bring that tyranny back.

I am with some others here that if a person breaks into my house where my wife and children are sleeping, he or she better be ready to eat lead. :machinegun:

:yessir: :machinegun:

One tiny little point, and I'm not being argumentative. Nobody should ever say that they agree with the right to bare arms. Ever.

It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. If it is in the constitution, it's the law. Agree or not. If we ever say that we agree with it, then we allow an argument to argue against it. But we NEVER need to say that we AGREE with something that is so clearly stated within the constitution. If it's in the constitution, that's it. Period. End of report.

That's the problem with the people we have just elected to run our government. They don't care what the constitution says, they want something else. That's why they never appoint judges that they think will interpret the law but judges that they think will pervert what the constitution says to say it means something completely different.

One tiny little point, and I'm not being argumentative. Nobody should ever say that they agree with the right to bare arms. Ever.

It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. If it is in the constitution, it's the law. Agree or not. If we ever say that we agree with it, then we allow an argument to argue against it. But we NEVER need to say that we AGREE with something that is so clearly stated within the constitution. If it's in the constitution, that's it. Period. End of report.

That's the problem with the people we have just elected to run our government. They don't care what the constitution says, they want something else. That's why they never appoint judges that they think will interpret the law but judges that they think will pervert what the constitution says to say it means something completely different.

I think the president elect a constitutional lawyer if I am not mistaken, there was some something awhile back that I read about him wanting to take or remove things in the constitution...not in a good way either.

If I can find what I read I will post it here.

I think the president elect a constitutional lawyer if I am not mistaken, there was some something awhile back that I read about him wanting to take or remove things in the constitution...not in a good way either.

If I can find what I read I will post it here.

thats always the scary part. that and the ones who just say naaahh it cant happen noones crazy enough to go up against the constitution right?

I am for a less big government ideal just as you do.

got this in am eail from a friend of the family who served in vietnam
just thought id pass it on i didnt double check any facts cause the concept alone is worth looking at

A Little Gun History Lesson

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australian taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that too!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson.

With Guns...........We Are "Citizens".
Without Them........We Are "Subjects".

Yup Mike, it can happen here too.... it's what can happen when the "Few" have the absolute power to "Dictate" to the majority.

Sadly, it's the "Few" who are supposed to represent the people that are in fact abusing the people's rights and they know it. It's going to be awesome when people are stripped of their own right to self defense.... Home invasion will be a very popular career for some criminals, but don't worry, they'll have their guns taken away.... :rolleyes:

I think the president elect a constitutional lawyer if I am not mistaken, there was some something awhile back that I read about him wanting to take or remove things in the constitution...not in a good way either.

If I can find what I read I will post it here.

He stated in a 2001 NPR interview that the tragedy of the civil rights movement was that the courts didn't break free from the constraints that the constitution and the founding fathers placed on them.

I really do see this gun ban coming down the pike. We've got Rohm Emmanuel, the man who crafted the Clinton gun control legislation as Cheif of Staff.. We've got Obama, who has been in favor of gun control and gun banning for years, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid who have made their views known for a long time. It won't be long till we can kiss that section of the constitution good bye. I've heard rumors of the possibility that Obama will sign an executive order preventing the importation of firearms and ammo. In a radio interview he gave days before the election he said that he supports a federal law that would invalidate every state's concealed carry laws. So, apparenty, only the criminals will be carrying their firearms around. Sounds like a great plan.. for the criminals at least.

Right or wrong, when it's all said and done they'll have to physically remove mine from my possession, and it won't be easy.

And Mike, that post from your Nam vet friend..........it's all fact.

To much government with too much control. I think it's time to revamp.

Thanks bro for sharing that email.........all so true

Right or wrong, when it's all said and done they'll have to physically remove mine from my possession, and it won't be easy.
I am with you on that my man! Come and get em if you think you can.....:machinegun:

Darn, this is why I love this place!!!!
You guys are a bunch of crazy ass gun slingen, loons!!!! And I love it!!
We have a “mild” form of gun control in SA, permit system , but you can only have 4 guns in total, 2 handguns, 2 rifles..luckily my father had the foresight to register us as “part time professional hunters” when I became legal…so I have had 8 to my name since I was 16…

Got a similar story to share.
Young Farmer wakes up in the middle of the night to hear two guys trying to get into his bedroom. He talks to them through the door, warning them that he is armed. They just laugh and tell him to f-off, they are coming in…they get tired of trying to get the door open with the screw driver, they saunter over to his fridge and grab a beer, go outside and drink it under the farmers tree. When they return to their door work, the farmer fires a warning shot, they keep going, so he fires a shot through the door, hits one F*cker in the leg and the other runs off, now the basted bleeds to death. He had phoned the police two hours ago when he first heard them , they arrive 2 hours after the shooting, thus 4 hours after his call…they calss the incident as justified self defence right then and there, open and shut…

Until some monkey in our government heard it’s a white farmer who shot a black guy, he claims it was a racist shooting…next day the farmer is arrested on murder one…the police report from 1 day ago that classed the shooting as justified self defence suddenly disappears…a new one is drafted-murder and attempt….you guys see where this is going….

If somebody comes into my home at night, even just to steal food, he will die, or I will die trying to make him dead…my wife knows the drill…she will not be raped/abused/killed/mauled.. in front of my eyes, we will both die fighting….

O yes, the intestine of a large constrictor will digest anything….bone, skin…just putting that out there…..lest say you 2 150 pound retics, they both eat say 20 pounds per feed…200 pounds will take 20 feedings, that is 10 weeks….no trace left, save money on feeders…
THE B

O yes, the intestine of a large constrictor will digest anything….bone, skin…just putting that out there…..lest say you 2 150 pound retics, they both eat say 20 pounds per feed…200 pounds will take 20 feedings, that is 10 weeks….no trace left, save money on feeders…
THE B

I like that idea :D. All the more reason to get a tic! I'll have to put that one to the woman and see what she thinks.

As far as gun control here in America Obama has already made the statement that "The Constitution (which BTW I like Mike and Norsmis, swore to uphold against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC) is basically a list of negatives, things that you CAN'T do." I wish I was making that quote up but it is a matter of public record. He will do everything in his power to negate the Constitution of the United States. We need to start working NOW before he gets into office to IMPEACH his ass.

O yes, the intestine of a large constrictor will digest anything….bone, skin…just putting that out there…..lest say you 2 150 pound retics, they both eat say 20 pounds per feed…200 pounds will take 20 feedings, that is 10 weeks….no trace left, save money on feeders…
THE B

I like the way this guy thinks :wamma:

AS for your story, it always seems to go that way when it's a white guy defending himself from a black guy. In a clear case of self defense color shouldn't even be allowed to come into play.

I like the way this guy thinks :wamma:

AS for your story, it always seems to go that way when it's a white guy defending himself from a black guy. In a clear case of self defense color shouldn't even be allowed to come into play.

It sounded to me like he didn't even SEE the guy before he shot him. He said he shot him through the door lol. So unless he's a telepathic racist I'd say that's not much of a hate crime.

It sounded to me like he didn't even SEE the guy before he shot him. He said he shot him through the door lol. So unless he's a telepathic racist I'd say that's not much of a hate crime.

LOL, good point.

It sounded to me like he didn't even SEE the guy before he shot him. He said he shot him through the door lol. So unless he's a telepathic racist I'd say that's not much of a hate crime.
Gotta love African reasoning and politics….It was alleged that he heard them and realized from their voices that they were black.
I am by no means a racist, but being on a hot plate the whole time because I am white pisses me off…

Does a president have the power to change the constitution alone in the US? I know you guys have a presidential government (you vote for a president, not for a party). We over here vote for a party and then parliament elects a president. So how much power does Mr Obamie have?...
The B

Right or wrong, when it's all said and done they'll have to physically remove mine from my possession, and it won't be easy.

And Mike, that post from your Nam vet friend..........it's all fact.

To much government with too much control. I think it's time to revamp.yeah i checked on most of it and its true. Its just the simple fact that like it says when its a crime to have a gun then only criminals will have guns. period.

Thanks bro for sharing that email.........all so true

welcome Liz

I have been a member of the NRA for many years. Here's my newest carry piece.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/Ruger003.jpg



Aother carry piece.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/newpiece002.jpg

My best friend.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/upgrade001.jpg


The reason I will stayed armed. My daughter and grandaughter.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/Tinley07038-1.jpg

Gotta love African reasoning and politics….It was alleged that he heard them and realized from their voices that they were black.
I am by no means a racist, but being on a hot plate the whole time because I am white pisses me off…

Does a president have the power to change the constitution alone in the US? I know you guys have a presidential government (you vote for a president, not for a party). We over here vote for a party and then parliament elects a president. So how much power does Mr Obamie have?...
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The president does not have the power to change the constitution himself he must convene a constitutional committee (which has been done hundreds of times and is not as big a procedure as the media would have us believe) and get both the house and the senate to pass the amendment (which given the fact that much more than half of both are his party and totally ga ga, bend me over, have your way with me for him would be no problem). I believe that is the whole procedure, now I could be wrong on this and I will do more research but that is how I learned it back in high school.

Also, the house majority leader is putting forward the "fairness doctrine" again. Basically any "biased" source of information must give equal time to both sides. Now ok I know in theory it sounds great but look at it this way, we have multiple media outlets for a reason. I know if I go to Fox I will get middle ground, generally fact based reporting of the news and their commentary will be more right biased. Great, now say I want a loony lefty opinion, I can turn over to Chrissy Matthews (who by the way has said it is and I quote "My job to make sure that this administration does well" and he's supposed to be UNbiased?) on CNN or MSDNC wherever the hell he may be whoring himself out from and learn what the left has to say.

The "fairness doctrine" is 110% a violation of our first amendment rights to freedom of speech and freedom of the press. It would put right leaning news sources (especially talk radio) out of business by forcing them to showcase views that their regular listeners and viewers do not agree with thereby dropping their viewership and listenership, causing the advertisers to go elsewhere, putting them out of business. The damn lefties would have no problem selling their filth as "un-biased" reporting because the government as it stands today IS BIASED! By the time (if it ever happens again) that we have a republican or at least non-democrat controlled house and/or senate and can change the law all of the non-left, non-garbage media sources would be GONE.

Just facts, but take them or leave them.

I have been a member of the NRA for many years. Here's my newest carry piece.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/Ruger003.jpg



Aother carry piece.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/newpiece002.jpg

My best friend.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/upgrade001.jpg


The reason I will stayed armed. My daughter and grandaughter.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/1bonnie/Tinley07038-1.jpg


Ain't nuthin' like a well armed woman :hellyea:

Hell, in Detroit you NEED to be armed. I hear Flint's gotten worse than Detroit though.

Here is the latest question mark raised on gun control and Obama

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081120/pl_politico/15835

Ain't nuthin' like a well armed woman :hellyea:

Hell, in Detroit you NEED to be armed. I hear Flint's gotten worse than Detroit though.

You know it. Have a "couple" of rifles and shotguns too. Been broken into here 3 times and had my Colt Python stolen. (I'm sick about that). Flint ain't no good time either. I'm just not going to go down without a fight. I deliver newspapers. I have a daytime route in my own zipcode and hear gunfire (in the daytime) during it. I also deliver at night in the suburbs. Yes I need my CPL.

My friend and I used to sell knives and coins at the local gun shows. We also had a flea market booth for 4 or 5 years. Sold many self defense items. And lots of toys. Blank guns, air soft, blow dart guns, batons, ect. Reptiles too. Had lots of fun till the economy went south.

I gotta tell you guys a true story. We where on a hunting trip in Canada. We are at an outpost cabin in the middle of nowhere. A game warden shows up, six years hunting there and had never seen a officer before. We make him feel at home,coffee ,chitchat. He looks over and spots a shotgun in the corner of the room. He checks the gun and finds 2 rounds in the magazine. Nothing in the chamber. He wasn't happy, gave us a strong verbal warning. You can't have any ammo in a firearm in a dwelling or moving vehicle including a boat. He seemed cool so I asked him what if someone breaks in and I can't load my gun fast enough? He looks at me an says it is illegal to shoot anybody. He then said , If you come home and catch somebody killing your family and you kill them. You will be charged for murdering him. There is no self defense law in Canada. He saw the stunned look on our faces and then told us that is why they have so many people missing in Canada. He was serious. In my opinion that is messed up. They have much lower gun crime numbers in Canada but a lot of holes in the woods.

If you come home and catch somebody killing your family and you kill them. You will be charged for murdering him.

I'm sorry, but I'd just have to spend the rest of my life in prison. Family would be dead anyhow, right?

I hear ya . We couldn't believe it. You know every time there is a shooting in the public eye. Politicians want to add more laws. Its one more way to get elected. Look what I did for you. Yeah one more law not to be enforced. One more law I have to follow. Don't get me wrong we do need restrictions. It's easier to pass restrictions then fund enforcement. When was the last time you voted for a tax increase ?

Let me rephrase that last sentence. When was the last time you voted for a politician that raised taxes ? Remember the next time you vote. The hardest thing for a politician is to raise taxes. The easiest is to lower your taxes .