I really like the bees. I dont own any ball pythons but Im planning on getting a couple of hatchlings in the near future.

I know that a bee is a spider x pastel. Got that. Ive also seen the Enchi bee which some call a Stinger Bee.

Now, my question is it just an enchi x spider or is it an enchi/pastel x spider. How many traits are in there?

I was under the impression that an enchi was just a nice form of a pastel. But now Im hearing its a morph unto itself. Would you have to breed a pastel to an enchi get an enchi/pastel and then add the spider to produce the Stinger Bee? Yeah I know Bush-league. Im in the right place hook a brother up.

Lets question if you breed a bee to a normal would you get any bees or just normals, spiders and pastels?

Can someone tie my shoe for me? Thanks

:)

Seems like you know what you are doing....

Enchi is a different morph from a pastel -- if you breed an Enchi to a pastel you get an Enchi Pastel not a super pastel.

Everything bred to a spider has been saddled with a bee name and stinger bee is an enchi x spider no pastel included.

bumblebees can produce bumbles as well as spiders and pastels when bred to a normal.

Thanks Tosha! Got it!

:yourock:

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there will be some awesome bees at whiteplains, there always are.
sure you could fine a spectacular one for a decent price if you've got cold hard do re me.
if you have the desire and the means shoot for the triple shoe lace.
lotsa people already have great three-baggers like belly bees (yellowbelly bees)
out there for sale.
maybe they'll be a killerbee with your name on it ?
ck

Ill be getting the ingredients not the Bee. And not at this show not ready. But would like to peep them out.

Which one is a killer bee. Is that a super pastel x spider?

CK: check your PMs pls

Ill be getting the ingredients not the Bee. And not at this show not ready. But would like to peep them out.

Which one is a killer bee. Is that a super pastel x spider?

CK: check your PMs pls

You sir, are correct.

Super Pastel Spider = Killerbee. :rockon:

the pastel/bee line is definitly a looker and still learning the more adance trible codom genetics and all that myself

I was under the impression that an enchi was just a nice form of a pastel. No Enchis are a morph of their own.

And if you think Bees are hot wait till you see a Bumblebee Enchi (Pastel X Spider X Enchi), like this one

http://stewartreptiles.com/Gallery/Breeders/NERD/Pics/BumblebeeEnchi2.jpg

Enchi X Pastel is also a pretty hot combination

http://stewartreptiles.com/Gallery/Breeders/NERD/Pics/LeManchi3.jpg

Lets question if you breed a bee to a normal would you get any bees Yes

Which one is a killer bee. Is that a super pastel x spider?A killer bee aka super pastel spider is produced by breeding

A# Pastel X Bee

B# Super Pastel X Bee

Breeding a super pastel X Spider will not give you a Killer Bee!

No Enchis are a morph of their own.

And if you think Bees are hot wait till you see a Bumblebee Enchi (Pastel X Spider X Enchi), like this one

http://stewartreptiles.com/Gallery/Breeders/NERD/Pics/BumblebeeEnchi2.jpg

Enchi X Pastel is also a pretty hot combination

http://stewartreptiles.com/Gallery/Breeders/NERD/Pics/LeManchi3.jpg

Yes

wow that is cool looking =)

Hey Deb those are some great pics! IDK if they've actually gone public with it yet (and I'll probably get my butt kicked for saying anything) but I was up at NERD and Kara was showing me the FIVE morph combo they made! If I remember correctly it was Enchi, Woma, Pastel, Pinstripe, Mojave lol. It was basically patternless, but looked a lot like the Bumblebee Enchis with a small stripe going down the back with a couple little hooks. Just an absolutely beautiful snake! I'm hoping someday I can hit the three banger with a Pewter bee :D. First I gotta make some pewters though!

A killer bee aka super pastel spider is produced by breeding

A# Pastel X Bee

B# Super Pastel X Bee

Breeding a super pastel X Spider will not give you a Killer Bee!

thanks the killer bee was a question I had so has to be a pastel to bee got it thanks

Thank you Deborah for the explaination and great pics! :cheers:

Great Pics Deb! :)

**sigh** more animals to add to my want list.....

**sigh** more animals to add to my want list.....

List is getting long around here.

Before I joined the BLBC I wanted:

Flavis
Red Ackies

And maybe a few other things but nothing that was REALLY eating away at me.

Now I want:

Flavis
Red Ackies
More red ackies
More Kimberly rocks
Spider and pastel balls to make bees
True suriname red tails
Couple of other boas
Leachies
womas

Thats just for starters..lol

I dont know if Ill ever have that crew but its definitely "want" at this point.

List is getting long around here.

Before I joined the BLBC I wanted:

Flavis
Red Ackies

And maybe a few other things but nothing that was REALLY eating away at me.

Now I want:

Flavis
Red Ackies
More red ackies
More Kimberly rocks
Spider and pastel balls to make bees
True suriname red tails
Couple of other boas
Leachies
womas

Thats just for starters..lol

I dont know if Ill ever have that crew but its definitely "want" at this point.

I hear that my list is growing too. I want some Black Heads..:rockon:

Sheesh....just got an idea for a new thread. "What's on your wanted list...due to the BLBC" :lol:

Deb, that's a rockin' Enchi Pastel!!! Not too shabby on the stinger either!! Well done! Great examples of both!

Thanks for all the information. Learn stuff everyday here. And Deb those pics are great!