Got this from a buddy another Hybrid to add into the mix and it is a Male
A Roussis Mongrel ball Part Blood and mostly ball.
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Pretty cool looking..

Wow, his head is crazy looking.

Its the eyes that did it for me.

It's cool looking snake...

only thing blood in it is really the head and eyes... wonder what kind of size you are looking at seeing when he's all grown up.

Those eyes are pretty wicked.... Cool snake Bro!

Its cool lookin.

Would never own it, but VERY cool to see.

Nice -- yep you can definitely see the blood in the head and it looks like the body might be more blood shaped - it'll be interesting to see how it grows -- thanks for sharing!

yeah the eyes are definitly killer man i have to agree

How did the mix work? Was it a blood cross to a normal? Just curious at the lack of blood in it...

looks cool as hell though!

Nice! I really like the Roussis crosses. I like the eyes and head.

How did the mix work? Was it a blood cross to a normal? Just curious at the lack of blood in it...

looks cool as hell though!

blood would be 25% of the cross. Superball bred back to a ball python. Todd

blood would be 25% of the cross. Superball bred back to a ball python. Todd

Cool thanks!

Have any of the crosses successfully been bred back to a pure blood? If so, or if it possible would that mean you could transfer the ball morphs into bloods.
IE Normal blood x Lavender albino Ball creating het lav hybrids. Then breeding the mixed het back into normal bloods, creating possible hets. Breed these back to the het 50/50 hybrid or each other and create a Lavender albino blood. Or at least a lavender albino that is more blood then ball. If the trait works like im thinking over time you could continue to minimalize the ball in it, but keep the lavender albino trait. Yes, no, any thoughts?

Cool snake. Those eyes are captivating.

blood would be 25% of the cross. Superball bred back to a ball python. Todd

Isn't it cool how hybrid facts can get all confused and now you don't even know what you have? Or is Roussis the one that is confused?

Comments: This Hybrid is 2/3 Ball Python, 1/3 Borneo its the result of breeding a SuperBall to a Ball python.

At any rate I like how the borneo genetics "mean" up the ball face a bit... but seriously I think if we can't even keep track of what the animals are that we're producing when it comes to hybrids, we shouldn't be producing them...

Cool thanks!

I was not sure of the Cross
This from his site.
This Hybrid is 2/3 Ball Python, 1/3 Borneo its the result of breeding a SuperBall to a Ball python.

Isn't it cool how hybrid facts can get all confused and now you don't even know what you have? Or is Roussis the one that is confused?



At any rate I like how the borneo genetics "mean" up the ball face a bit... but seriously I think if we can't even keep track of what the animals are that we're producing when it comes to hybrids, we shouldn't be producing them...



I have corrected it. That being said I did not produce it

So if you take a snake that is 50% ball and breed it to a snake that is 100% ball, are the offspring 75% ball or 66% ball? Just wondering how you do the math to figure it out.

Wow very cool man! There's been talk between me and some guy about trying to produce some of those and we've got some great ideas for down the road type of breeding projects.

wow that cool very nice

So if you take a snake that is 50% ball and breed it to a snake that is 100% ball, are the offspring 75% ball or 66% ball? Just wondering how you do the math to figure it out.

Whenever I see 66% I always think of Albinos and a het to het Breeding. Offspring would be 66% het for Albino.
I come from a more carpet outlook.
If you breed a diamond Jungle cross to a pure jungle. They are called 75%.
If you breed those offspring again to a Pure Jungle they are 88%.

He is mainly a Ball Python guy Maybe that is where that 66% figure comes from. I would believe they are 75% Ball 25% Carpet. But I did not produce them. If I did I would stand by the 75%. If I bred him back to a blood. Than the amount changes.

I don't mean to bash your snake but I don't see the point in buying a Hybrid unless it's an obvious mix of two species.

Have any of the crosses successfully been bred back to a pure blood? If so, or if it possible would that mean you could transfer the ball morphs into bloods.
IE Normal blood x Lavender albino Ball creating het lav hybrids. Then breeding the mixed het back into normal bloods, creating possible hets. Breed these back to the het 50/50 hybrid or each other and create a Lavender albino blood. Or at least a lavender albino that is more blood then ball. If the trait works like im thinking over time you could continue to minimalize the ball in it, but keep the lavender albino trait. Yes, no, any thoughts?


Yes it is definitely possible to mix the ball morphs into the hybrid crosses but imo it could possibly muddy the waters a bit.

The last thing I'd like to hear is someone selling a ball/blood combination morph of some type as a new ball morph out of Africa. All it takes is one dishonest person and the royal gene pool could have major purity issues.

I'm not saying I'm against hybrids but I can see where problems could arise. It's one of the few issues I'm truly undecided on.. For now at least

I'm sure BT will sound off with a big "Hell No"...:)

Yes it is definitely possible to mix the ball morphs into the hybrid crosses but imo it could possibly muddy the waters a bit.

The last thing I'd like to hear is someone selling a ball/blood combination morph of some type as a new ball morph out of Africa. All it takes is one dishonest person and the royal gene pool could have major purity issues.

I'm not saying I'm against hybrids but I can see where problems could arise. It's one of the few issues I'm truly undecided on.. For now at least

I'm sure BT will sound off with a big "Hell No"...:)

It is such a hard thing to do. The actual chance of getting a receptive female and than getting her to lock and drop eggs is a hard thing to do. And during the incubation there is alot of loss. I think the main are you saw this in was with boas. But with the Carpalls I started with 23 eggs and only ended up with 7 eggs going full term and two sets of twins. Todd

Don't take it the wrong way...... just not for me. I don't think it looks like anything special. I don't see the point in muddying the water. That's just me...... I hope you enjoy it though!

Not into hybrids myself but cool looking

I like the head and eyes. I have no issues with cross breeding if done correctly and records kept. I to would hate to see the waters get muddy though. It's a tough one I think cause I do see some really neat looking crosses but I do perfer to keep lines clean as well. If that makes sense :lol:

Keep em coming, Buddha! That 3rd pic rocks! :rockon:

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It is such a hard thing to do. The actual chance of getting a receptive female and than getting her to lock and drop eggs is a hard thing to do. And during the incubation there is alot of loss. I think the main are you saw this in was with boas. But with the Carpalls I started with 23 eggs and only ended up with 7 eggs going full term and two sets of twins. Todd

Yessir I can definitely respect the difficulty, thats for sure. I'm just undecided. lol I'm just saying that to be a fence rider but it's true..

Love that next set of pics:rockon: