So this past season I bred my high white pied male to a bunch of really nice normal females. When the babies came out I was bummed because most were male. However, the babies were awesome. About 50 - 60% of them (I should count) do not look like normal ball pythons. They actually look like low white pieds.

Talking with Graziani, he said that Pete has a line of pieds that do this. (I got my pied from Pete a few years back) It acts like a dominant gene, thus the reason why 50-60% look like this. He also said that if bred to a spider, it does crazy things to the spider pattern. Greg also thought maybe it was only male that would be produced like this as he's only produced males. However, I told him I have some females that look like this too.

This is not meant to be a shameless plug, but you can see a picture of a male here: http://sunshinestateexotics.com/products-page/100-het-pied/

What do you guys think about this? Do any of you work with this gene or have it?

The original animal that started it was a female. It does do some cool things with a spider. Any other pictures of them?

If you click on the picture on my site more should pop up. Let me know if it doesn't. Those are all I have right now. I'll have to take more of the others.

Thanks, they look good!

I have been out Gregs place and his were REALLY extreme. However I have not seen any offspring from those het to spider breedings. Are there any pics out there.

The only pic I have seen is in a old reptiles mag ad.......

I bred het x possie het last year and got a 3.3 of these weird looking possie hets. I know they are Petes line Hopefully they prove out next year LOL!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/jasballs1/148.jpg

That is sweet, Jas!

Those are both awesome. :rockon:

i really like what happened to the browns n dark browns on your hets... id love to see what it did to the spider...

i really like what happened to the browns n dark browns on your hets... id love to see what it did to the spider...

http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gallery.php?int_cur_position=24&m=2005%20Photo%20Gallery

Yep, I'm going to do that breeding!

That's a cool project :rockon:

Thanks for the link

Wow that really does make some insane looking spiders! That's a really cool project to be working on :D Can't wait to see what comes out of it Larry :rockon:

Definitly interesting to say the least. and Jas you said yours was a pete line as well?

cant wait to see if they prove out and its a nice gene/marker type thing.

when you breed jungle spider het pieds to pieds you get the pied version pete hatched them this year but they died out of the egg and they had body pattern

Yea Larry good luck with them I've heard Greg G talk about those wicked het pieds from pieds line, from what I understand the homo pied still looks the same as the regular pied.

My question is does it do anything different in these wicked combos? Either way you cut it they are really cool and interesting..

Yea Larry good luck with them I've heard Greg G talk about those wicked het pieds from pieds line, from what I understand the homo pied still looks the same as the regular pied.

My question is does it do anything different in these wicked combos? Either way you cut it they are really cool and interesting..

Thanks, Larry. Yes, my pied male still looks like a high white pied.

[QUOTE=jasballs;25394]I bred het x possie het last year and got a 3.3 of these weird looking possie hets. I know they are Petes line Hopefully they prove out next year LOL!

wow jas...
that is a real nice poss het. (gotta be a het, be real surprised if it isn't )
great head spot and more hooks than a tackle box !
good luck with it (them),
ck