Saw the coolest thing this morning.

I have some cork bark pieces in with the hatchling ackies. Some of them have little holes in them. So today I walk by and I see half an ackie hanging out of the hole, LOL! Now I know these guys love tight spaces so I figured he was just trying to wiggle in there. But its obvious to me he cant fit in that tiny hole. Hes workin' hard on it though, legs pushing like mad tail flopping around.

Then he backs out and he's got a cricket in his mouth!! Hot damn! He was hunting and must have either chased the cricket in there and went to get him or was exploring holes for food. This is the fist time I have actually SEEN this group of hatchling eat. I KNOW they are eating by how they look, presence of poop and the food is disappearing. But I havent caught them yet. Whoooo!

So he takes his cricket to the top of the Retes Stack (All Hail) and procedes to teach it a lesson. The killing station. They have started using a killing station. Awwwww! Baby's first killing station! Reminds me of my alligators first death roll!

Couldnt get to my camera in time. But just had to tell the story. I got at least one BMF in the bunch :wamma:

Awwww, babys first kill. How precious :wamma: Must be neat to watch them do what they were born to do.

Lol nice V! Those babies are gonna be stone-cold killers before you know it :rockon:

That sounds pretty neat to see. To bad on no pictures maybe some later Please I'd like to see this =)

Too bad no pics bu you sound like a proud daddy :cheers:

Im gonna leave the camera next to their cage so if something cool happens maybe I can catch it. Like if they all start a conga line I dont wanna miss that.

Lol nice V! Those babies are gonna be stone-cold killers before you know it :rockon:

Nobody iller
Than these graveyard fillers
Cap peelers
Cuz they're natural born killas

-Dre Dre :)

Im gonna leave the camera next to their cage so if something cool happens maybe I can catch it. Like if they all start a conga line I dont wanna miss that.

That would be awesome!!!! Don't wanna miss that :lol:

Awwww, babys first kill. How precious :wamma: Must be neat to watch them do what they were born to do.

Thats why I always stress setting them up right. When the cage is correct you get to see all this cool stuff. When they're not set up right you may as well have an anole cuz they really arent going to do much.

That's awesome. It's always nice to actually get that confirmation that they are eating and doing the stuff we assume they are doing.

Please, when they start that conga line, you MUST get pics.

If they conga, I guarantee pics. Ill have the GF take them.

There is no way Im not getting in on a varanid congo line. Ill be the big one at the end wearing the T-shirt. Cant miss me I dont have a tail.

If they conga, I guarantee pics. Ill have the GF take them.

There is no way Im not getting in on a varanid congo line. Ill be the big one at the end wearing the T-shirt. Cant miss me I dont have a tail.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Big V congrats on seeing the baby eat. Glad it made your day.:wamma:

Congrats man!

You have a gator? Gotta see that!

Congrats man!

You have a gator? Gotta see that!

Not any more. I did many years ago.

Without a doubt a baby gator is about the coolest thing on the planet. But I had to give him up as I could not house even a half grown gator. I was young and impetuous at the time. An opportunity arose to get a baby gator and even though I knew I shouldnt and it was kinda sorta illegal I did any way. Not proud of myself and I wouldnt do it again unless I had the permits (if possible) and could properly house a full size gator. Shame shame on me.

But....OH MAN WAS IT COOL WATCHING IT DEATH ROLL!!!!! :rockon:

I have some pics of it. Not on the comp. Regular pics. I should have them scanned. I think you'd get a hoot out of them. Baby gator in the bathtub scrub-a-dub-dub!

Not any more. I did many years ago.

Without a doubt a baby gator is about the coolest thing on the planet. But I had to give him up as I could not house even a half grown gator. I was young and impetuous at the time. An opportunity arose to get a baby gator and even though I knew I shouldnt and it was kinda sorta illegal I did any way. Not proud of myself and I wouldnt do it again unless I had the permits (if possible) and could properly house a full size gator. Shame shame on me.

But....OH MAN WAS IT COOL WATCHING IT DEATH ROLL!!!!! :rockon:

I have some pics of it. Not on the comp. Regular pics. I should have them scanned. I think you'd get a hoot out of them. Baby gator in the bathtub scrub-a-dub-dub!

I'd love to get me a gator. It's so hard to resist the urge every time I go to a show with the hundreds of them for so cheap. They are so cute. Must not get gator until I have proper space and money for food and stuff! They have like 10 of them in a 40 breeder at this shop I go to sometimes.. it's sad to see them all cooped up like that, but it is fun to watch them eat crickets and stuff. If I ever get the space, I'd love to get a dwarf caiman. Oh, oops, this was about ackies, wasn't it.

Them ackies are so cute. If you can bear to part with 1, it'll have a good home at my house.

Nice V! It is awesome watching the animals we keep do what they were born to do.

And the conga line...... screw the pics I want video!!!!!!!!

Them ackies are so cute. If you can bear to part with 1, it'll have a good home at my house.

I got you covered, bro. I will in fact be letting all of these go. 2 are spoken for and I got a pair marked for you if you want them. Or if you just want 1 thats fine too.

Just let me get some size on them and they are all yours.

Nobody iller
Than these graveyard fillers
Cap peelers
Cuz they're natural born killas

-Dre Dre :)

nobody smeller
than these toilet bowl fillers
crap dealers
cuz they're cheek squeezin' sqealers

-dr drool

dude you don't really listen to that verbal vomit do you ?
just wonderin'...wouldn't hold it against you !
personally, i'd have "killin' floor" from zep playin' in my head for those little moshers !
...glad they're all chowin' bro,
ck

I got you covered, bro. I will in fact be letting all of these go. 2 are spoken for and I got a pair marked for you if you want them. Or if you just want 1 thats fine too.

Just let me get some size on them and they are all yours.

I'll take a pair. I figured you wouldn't have enough for a pair for me after the other 2, and keeping a few. You won't be keeping any? Why so? Is it the flavi/argus you got coming? Or did they arrive already?

I'll take a pair. I figured you wouldn't have enough for a pair for me after the other 2, and keeping a few. You won't be keeping any? Why so? Is it the flavi/argus you got coming? Or did they arrive already?


Its a combination of things. I have 2 trios of yellow ackies. 2.4. I was going to try to set up a third group. But I have too many other things I wanna do and my space is limited. 6 adult yellow ackies, I think, is plenty for now. Plus I can always make more :)

Yes the flavi/argus have arrived so I will need space for them.

AND I got two leads on a trio of red ackies which I have been meaning to get forever and just never got around to it. Well, thats partly true. I have seen some for sale but they havent thrilled me. Ive seen some really RED reds and those are what Im waiting for.

Plus I want to build a larger cage for the Kimberlys. Their cage is good but I want to give them more height.

And if that wasnt enough I have 10 baby leopard geckos I cant get rid of for the life of me.

So with a bit of a heavy heart Im gonna let all these guys go. So thats 4 spoken for, one still up for grabs. That is, of course, if they all do well and have no problems. If they arent perfect they dont leave my side. So far so good though.

Oh, did I mention every pair of yellow ackies comes with a free normal leopard gecko? LOL!!

nobody smeller
than these toilet bowl fillers
crap dealers
cuz they're cheek squeezin' sqealers

-dr drool

dude you don't really listen to that verbal vomit do you ?
just wonderin'...wouldn't hold it against you !
personally, i'd have "killin' floor" from zep playin' in my head for those little moshers !
...glad they're all chowin' bro,
ck


Not as a rule, no. Im old school metal, punk, thrash and some hard rock. However some of the rap songs I find amusing. Thats one of them.

If you wanna know the background I was a huge fan of Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW). A tag team called the Gangsta's used to come out to that song and bust the place up. And it kinda stuck with me.

But no as a rule I am not a rap/hip hop fan at all.

Awesome, cool watching the little ones hunt.... it's like mini versions of the already pygmy monitors. :yessir:

Not as a rule, no. Im old school metal, punk, thrash and some hard rock. However some of the rap songs I find amusing. Thats one of them.

If you wanna know the background I was a huge fan of Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW). A tag team called the Gangsta's used to come out to that song and bust the place up. And it kinda stuck with me.

But no as a rule I am not a rap/hip hop fan at all.

phew... that's a relief !
ck

Oh, did I mention every pair of yellow ackies comes with a free normal leopard gecko? LOL!!

LOL. Really desperate to get rid of those leos arentcha? I don't blame you. I'm thankful I don't have to do crickets for my geckos anymore, except for a treat. The Green Tree won't eat them anymore either.

Sorry you've gotta sell them all, though. It would be nice to be able to keep atleast a couple of the first you produced.

LOL. Really desperate to get rid of those leos arentcha? I don't blame you. I'm thankful I don't have to do crickets for my geckos anymore, except for a treat. The Green Tree won't eat them anymore either.

Sorry you've gotta sell them all, though. It would be nice to be able to keep atleast a couple of the first you produced.

Oh Ive produced them before. These were the first this particular season. All the other clutches went downhill.

I had a horrible season this year. I lost a ton of eggs. Just bad bad bad. This small clutch from a young, small female was all I had left. If these didnt hatch I would have a big fat ZERO monitors produced this season.

But they came through like troopers and I got a little attached to them. I think we're all guilty of that at one time or another. But after more consideration its for the best if I let them go. Im good with the 6 yellows for now. I would like to get up to 6 reds as well. Then if all goes well who knows I might add another trio of red or yellows.

And stop trying to talk me out of it!! Dont get me all emotional or NOBODY is getting any lizards! Ya hear???


:lol:

simply awesome man crafty lil buggers they are. would have loved to see the pic of it squeezing into the tight spot LMAO

glad the hard work and wait for these babies was complimented by heathly happy and now hunting lil babies

simply awesome man crafty lil buggers they are. would have loved to see the pic of it squeezing into the tight spot LMAO

glad the hard work and wait for these babies was complimented by heathly happy and now hunting lil babies

Thanks E-pig. Good to see ya around again. Missed ya around these here parts.

That's awesome Big V!!!!

Proud poppa standing there yelling get em get em....lol

That's awesome Big V!!!!

Proud poppa standing there yelling get em get em....lol

Thats creepy. Are you peeping in my window? Thats precisely what I was doing.

*twilight zone music*

Thats creepy. Are you peeping in my window? Thats precisely what I was doing.

*twilight zone music*

Nope just the same stuff I do, all proud and happy when something figures out what to do what comes naturally but I still insist that I had a part in it somehow....lol

Thought Id give a little update on these guys.

They are really coming around and getting their "monitor balls" so to speak. When they hatch they spend the first few days or even a week pretty much hiding 100%. Occaisonaly you may catch a glimpse at one but as soon as he sees you he's gone. Then little by little they start to get bolder. At least thats how ackies go. Adult ackies could care less. You can bang pots and pans over their heads and they'll just look at you.

The babies are eating crickets now in front of me. Im pitching crickets in there and they are grabbing them as soon as they hit the floor. Even had a tug of war going on until the cricket got ripped in half! Good sign.

Of course they still hide in their burrows a lot but thats the nature of the beast.

I got one guy in there who I have my eye on. Little bit of bully. Not so bad yet but hes on probation. Id bet my last dollar he's a male but you really cant know for sure for quite some time. Hes the best eater so far. I dont know where's putting it but hes pounding those little crickets.

Oh and in other news the Kimberlys managed to unscrew one of their light bulbs again. How do they do that????

:yessir:

Oh and in other news the Kimberlys managed to unscrew one of their light bulbs again. How do they do that????

:yessir:

They use their tail like a pull cord on a lawn mower. They wrap several times and just let er rip :lol:

Congrats on everybody comin' round

They use their tail like a pull cord on a lawn mower. They wrap several times and just let er rip :lol:

Congrats on everybody comin' round

Maybe so. Maybe so. I wouldnt put anything past them at this point.

Thanks for the update V.

That would have been cool to see! I can tell you are a proud papa......

Thanks for the update!!

Another update. Just cant help it. Lovin' these guys.

When they hatched on Nov 17 four of them weighed 3 grams and one weighted 2 grams.

Today I decided to dig them up, give them a soak and check on them. I dont see them that often they are buried a lot. Put them on the scale and I have four at 6 grams and one at 5 grams. Must be the little guy.

All but one have doubled in weight in 23 days or so. And the little guy actually had the fattest belly of them all.

All is going according to plan do far. They are a little freaked out and I HATE to disturb them but I really wanted to give them a soak and just do a general health check. Make sure nobody was getting beat up or missing toes. All is well on the western front.

They should double again in the next 2-3 weeks.

That sounds like a pretty good update nice to hear they are doing well =) How long will they keep themselves hid from more pictures??? (lol)

Dammit I should have taken more picture while I had them out. My fault.

Ill try to sneak a few this weekend if I catch them basking!

Dammit I should have taken more picture while I had them out. My fault.

Ill try to sneak a few this weekend if I catch them basking!

Gezzzz I thought we had you trained better :lol:

Gezzzz I thought we had you trained better :lol:

Ima 'learnin'. Ima learin'

Ima 'learnin'. Ima learin'

If you double the pictures next time and I think we can let ya slide this time :lol:

I'm so disappointed big V....I think that should be included in your book to document it all with photos!

I'm so disappointed big V....I think that should be included in your book to document it all with photos!

Im a writer, not a photographer. All my pictures stink anyway I dont know why you gluttons for punishment want more.:lol:

When I get my new Fuji camera that Southern Wolf suggested maybe I will improve. Its supposed to be almost idiot proof with its auto feature. Ill put it to the test.

I'm so disappointed big V....I think that should be included in your book to document it all with photos!

A Book without pictures yuck!!! :lol:

A Book without pictures yuck!!! :lol:

No not for the book but a short section on the importance...:rockon:

OH Lord I have to put pictures in this book?

DANG!

This is gonna be harder than I thought. Poopies.

OH Lord I have to put pictures in this book?

DANG!

This is gonna be harder than I thought. Poopies.

I was kidding about the pictures but it would ROCK to have a few.... but I'd buy it without them just as fast :D

I was kidding about the pictures but it would ROCK to have a few.... but I'd buy it without them just as fast :D

Nay I was just foolin'. I know I gotta have some pics in there. I gotta admit a reptile book without pictures is pretty dry. Plus certain things are hard to explain with words. Like Retes Stacks (All hail). Murder to try to explain one of those puppies without a pic.

Nay I was just foolin'. I know I gotta have some pics in there. I gotta admit a reptile book without pictures is pretty dry. Plus certain things are hard to explain with words. Like Retes Stacks (All hail). Murder to try to explain one of those puppies without a pic.


Need a better camera first!

As to the ackies hunting...I didn't knwo that they were actually doing it....you have just said that you had thought that they were. I didn't know we were for sure...thats GREAT HUN! :D

Damn you Varanus! Always gotta show off your lizards! "Look at my ackies, they're hunting!" "Look, they've doubled in size!" "Look, they've got a murder station!" I hate you. :devil:


Seriously though, I'm just jealous -- I don't really hate you. :p One of these days I'll have the space to build a nice cage and get me a lizard or two of my own. Until that day though, I only have one thing to say... where's the pics? ;)

Damn you Varanus! Always gotta show off your lizards! "Look at my ackies, they're hunting!" "Look, they've doubled in size!" "Look, they've got a murder station!" I hate you. :devil:


Seriously though, I'm just jealous -- I don't really hate you. :p One of these days I'll have the space to build a nice cage and get me a lizard or two of my own. Until that day though, I only have one thing to say... where's the pics? ;)

LOL! Ok that was funny :D

Im going away for 3 days. When I get back I will take some new pics of the babies. They are old enough now that I dont mind messing with them a little bit.

And how can you NOT brag about a lizard thats a few weeks old and already has a murder station?? Thats too cool for the room!

Alright all you pic slobs I tried to take some pics.

1. I suck.
2. The camera sucks
3. Baby monitors do NOT stand still!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That being said here are a few. Sorry they arent better. Still gotta get the new camera. And learn how to use it. They may die of old age by that time.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/Varanus99/002-9.jpg

Where'd my Rete's Stack go?

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/Varanus99/003-8.jpg

Freeze!

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/Varanus99/004-5.jpg

Little fuzzy but you can see how chubby he is

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/Varanus99/005-8.jpg

Gonna make it..gonna make it...gonna make it..never make it never make it..

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/Varanus99/008-4.jpg

WOW what an ordeal that was. Its hard doing that by yourself.

I weighed two of them. They both came in at 10 grams. Nice. Up 4 grams from the last weigh in. Progressing nicely. I think I got the two biggest so the other guys I would guess are in the 8-10 gram range. Not bad. No question they are feeding and feeding well.

:rockon:Good to see some pics and weights V!!!

:rockon:Good to see some pics and weights V!!!

Yeah overdo.

I suck at pics, got a bad camera thus I dont take many. Beyond that I truly HATE to disturb them. They are totally buried most of the time. Which is great. I caught a few of them in and under the stack so I figured a good time to terrorize them.

Im very happy with the weight gain. They've more than tripled since Nov 17. They are eating insects as fast as I can stuff them in there.

Just for giggles, yesterday i decided to count. I never do this but what the hell Im a silly nancy pants. I counted out 30 crickets. Today I tore the cage apart. I found uno. Cool :D

Oh, plus a plate of turkey down the hatch. I always have the turkey just in case the tough guys get all the good crickets the not so tough guys still have something to eat. Although based on their appearance I dont think I have a dominance problem in there. Everybody looks good.:cheers:

Yeah overdo.

I suck at pics, got a bad camera thus I dont take many. Beyond that I truly HATE to disturb them. They are totally buried most of the time. Which is great. I caught a few of them in and under the stack so I figured a good time to terrorize them.

Im very happy with the weight gain. They've more than tripled since Nov 17. They are eating insects as fast as I can stuff them in there.

Just for giggles, yesterday i decided to count. I never do this but what the hell Im a silly nancy pants. I counted out 30 crickets. Today I tore the cage apart. I found uno. Cool :D

Oh, plus a plate of turkey down the hatch. I always have the turkey just in case the tough guys get all the good crickets the not so tough guys still have something to eat. Although based on their appearance I dont think I have a dominance problem in there. Everybody looks good.:cheers:
WOW thats very good!!!

WOW thats very good!!!

Im tellin ya man. Im gonna try and impress you with these things. I want them the size of adult niles before I bring them over!

Far fetched but I bet I can have them on pinkies by then!!:rockon:

Im tellin ya man. Im gonna try and impress you with these things. I want them the size of adult niles before I bring them over!

Far fetched but I bet I can have them on pinkies by then!!:rockon:
Dude if they are going to be the size of Niles then you might want to keep them as a ummmm speacial project!:lol:

If that is the case I might consider keeping a pair :D