Not sure what the fuss is all about apparently Allen has posted something on kingsnake for $250k the ad was took down before I could see it. I just saw this on a on-going thread over on bp.net. Be interesting if someone saw the ad or can fill everyone in on what exactly he wants 250k for? Something else was posted (not sure on the details) but he would even keep and breed them for that person?

Anyone got any input?

I'm sure the ad will be back in a couple of days.

From memory it was all ball pythons....

So a group of balls or a couple ball pythons? So is he getting out of the business?

You mean like a big group sale?? Have met him, and he seems nice enough, but I have heard some pretty bad things .....

So a group of balls or a couple ball pythons? So is he getting out of the business?

A group of balls.... getting out, nah..... If someone paid 250K for the list he had up they'd be nutz.

Just a sales pitch to try and lure 250K out of someone else's fingers.... not sure who has that kind of money nowadays, but you'd think they know better anyway.

Exactly... Florida... Listen BEWARE I have personally dealt with him on numerous occasions when first getting into the indusrty. He is a bad egg in the clutch. He "talks" alot and plays the big role but his animals are what people say they are.. (from experience) and He is a first class asshole.. (from expierence). He will shove it in you as hard and as far as he can then breaks it off.

Exactly... Florida... Listen BEWARE I have personally dealt with him on numerous occasions when first getting into the indusrty. He is a bad egg in the clutch. He "talks" alot and plays the big role but his animals are what people say they are.. (from experience) and He is a first class asshole.. (from expierence). He will shove it in you as hard and as far as he can then breaks it off.
Thanks for the heads up, but I am quite aware of his rep. :) One of those nice to your face while stabbing you in the back at the same time. I was very fortunate in that the first BP I got was from him at a show. Luckly, Jiko is in perfect health and already fathered a clutch for me. Now I know!

I saw the ad. Basically it amounted to him saying he had " an opportunity" for another business investment and needed 250k or so and needed it by weeks end. He listed a bunch of various stuff saying it ways everything he had, and that he would let the buyer keep it at his place and breed it there for a time, sign a no compete clause (which makes no sense if he sells everything anyway). .........Thats how I remember it anyway.

This was the ball ad - there was apparently a boa and retic one as well.

http://jetpythons.com/BDW1.jpg
http://jetpythons.com/BDW2.jpg
http://jetpythons.com/BDW3.jpg

What's he competing against? You have to have something worth having..

and he wanted 60k or 65k for a huge boa collection also i didnt see the retic add

The boa collection wasn't huge nor was it worth $60K.

It smells more like ..... " I want out , you want me out so pay my price and I'll be gone." type thing.

smells like greed to me. After what I saw over on the BOI....there is no way I'd shell out any money to him.

Yea when I was in bad dealings with this messed up ****face he told me he had invested $80,000 in boas. I went to his building and he had 5 boas and I am talking a albino and some double het sunglow's. He is not what he thinks he is. He plays the big role but he isn't sh** . Not to mention his animals are crap. You get a run down old breeder if you buy an adult. He is also a flipper and no different than JnJ except he tries to be Bob Clark. This guy is really messed up in the head though. His cages stay dirty and he runs his animals in the ground till they die. I have been to this guy's place dealt with him and sat and ate dinner with him. I KNOW HIM. He made me deals I couldn't refuse when first getting into this and he BURNED ME ON ALOT> He sold me a bell line green ghost told me it was orange Sold me a spider male last year and kept it all winter and bred it told me it was to cold to ship and said he fed it 2 timeS A WEEK. The animal came in under weight and gained 150 grams in 5 days. If you feed a animal 2 times a week it doesn't gain that kind of weight with a pronounced back bone.... The list goes on and on but this isn't the BOI so I will leave it with that.. I just get a kick out of seeing this guy try to be who he thinks he is in his mind.

"Big Daddy".

Quite a thaumaturgical handle to bestow on one's self.

:lol:

I wonder if anyone will actually bite...

I might send him an offer.... I'll tell him to keep them there, just pay me the 250K and he'll prfoit 50K based on his assumption they'll return 300K.... sounds fair to me?

We both win right? :wamma:

I might send him an offer.... I'll tell him to keep them there, just pay me the 250K and he'll prfoit 50K based on his assumption they'll return 300K.... sounds fair to me?

We both win right? :wamma:

I like how you think scott!

The boa collection wasn't huge nor was it worth $60K.

It smells more like ..... " I want out , you want me out so pay my price and I'll be gone." type thing.


This is the one I saw.

Yea I just saw all the ads. He is in his own little world.

muff-daddy's hole sale ?
i don't get it...
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Yea I just saw all the ads. He is in his own little world.

Not a world I want to pay to be in....

Not a world I want to pay to be in....

:lol:

I guess noone wanted his animals.... he is still posting ads on KS

He was also at the Dixie show peddling his wares

Dope.

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http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj217/janeothejungle/Herpscum/belcherretics2.jpg



~kat

He was also at the Dixie show peddling his wares

Yea and he is going to be at that other show in Alabama that everyone was talking about the shitty vendors on Ball-pythons.net. The one Robin was talking about going to.