I hate this has to be done but I dont want members of this forum acting like this because it is not what this club stands for. Andrew, I am sadly disappointed by this......
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193879


Hope that $120 was worth your reputation. :dunno:

He couldn't pay $120 in over 10 months?! That's plain ridiculous... especially since most all those emails said they were sent with a Blackberry, if you can afford a $90-100+ month blackberry plan you should be able to send $20 bucks to a "friend" every few weeks to make good on a deal.

I've always thought something wasn't quite right with that guy, this just proves it.

Ron,

I am sure you did hate writing this.....This is a really sad day. I can't believe a breeder could not come up with $120.00.

Regards,
Bill

Ron,

I am sure you did hate writing this.....This is a really sad day. I can't believe a breeder could not come up with $120.00.

Regards,
Bill

Not just a breeder.... a well liked member screwing over another well liked member of this club. Goes against everything this club stands for..... :mad:

I hate this has to be done but I dont want members of this forum acting like this because it is not what this club stands for. Andrew, I am sadly disappointed by this......
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193879


Hope that $120 was worth your reputation. :dunno:

fist off its not all there thats all i ave to say about it he didnt go in to detale about how he didnt send what i orderd did he no and mis sexxeed every thing did he no :yes: he is getting his money but i will push to get the proper sexed animals so yes it is worth it

fist off its not all there thats all i ave to say about it he didnt go in to detale about how he didnt send what i orderd did he no and mis sexxeed every thing did he no :yes: he is getting his money but i will push to get the proper sexed animals so yes it is worth it

So why didnt you say anything 10 MONTHS AGO! You said in your emails to him you thought it was funny but now since you havent paid him and he brought it to light, its a big deal? Are you serious? :dunno:

So why didnt you say anything 10 MONTHS AGO! You said in your emails to him you thought it was funny but now since you havent paid him and he brought it to light, its a big deal? Are you serious? :dunno:

And on top of that, Kevin asked what he could do to make it right about the mis sexed geckos and you said it was no big deal. Ever heard of the tail wagging the dog? That is exactly what you are doing right now.....

fist off its not all there thats all i ave to say about it he didnt go in to detale about how he didnt send what i orderd did he no and mis sexxeed every thing did he no :yes: he is getting his money but i will push to get the proper sexed animals so yes it is worth it

So since you are going to push for something you didn't care about, then he should push to get the full market value of the animals.

Okay, I went through and deciphered your post a little to make it legible. I highlighted the part in the original and the legible post below.

First off, its not all there. That's all i have to say about it. He didn't go in to detail about how he didn't send what i ordered. Did he? No. Mis-sexed every thing, did he? No :yes: He is getting his money but i will push to get the proper sexed animals, so yes, it is worth it

You just said he didn't mis-sex anything........:dunno:

fist off its not all there thats all i ave to say about it he didnt go in to detale about how he didnt send what i orderd did he no and mis sexxeed every thing did he no :yes: he is getting his money but i will push to get the proper sexed animals so yes it is worth it

And the more you push, the badder it will make you look andrew. YOU screwed up and didnt pay him for 10 months! He admitted he screwed up on the sexes and asked how to make it better. What have you done to make your part in this any better? Not a damn thing but give him more excuses.....

And the more you push, the badder it will make you look andrew. YOU screwed up and didnt pay him for 10 months! He admitted he screwed up on the sexes and asked how to make it better. What have you done to make your part in this any better? Not a damn thing but give him more excuses.....

Yeah.... you screwed up with your last two voicemails Andrew. Now the gloves are coming off. There is no more friendship between us.... and Its time to burn down your virutal house. Your name will be trashed in the reptile community because of your mouth and your lack of showing an effort to get this debt paid.

All you had to do was make an effort...... even $10 a month would have been sufficient. With an effort I would have never had said a word.

I sold you 9 snakes at half market value..... maybe I should push for full market.... and on top of that..... one of those 9 snakes was a free snake because mother nature didn't bless me with the sex ratio I need to fullfill your order.

Oh yes..... I have those emails as well.

And I thought you knew..... Im a high tech redneck. I have your voicemails online as well.

I really hope $120 was worth it for ya.

Very disappointing. Since it has been 10 months with no payment, I don't think it will ever be paid at this point. The excuses and delays sound a lot like the ones from the loser that has owed me $175 for almost 3 years now. Once the excuses start and it drags on...well...you can forget about it ever getting resolved. Just very disappointing. Another person ruins their reputation.

fist off its not all there thats all i ave to say about it he didnt go in to detale about how he didnt send what i orderd did he no and mis sexxeed every thing did he no :yes: he is getting his money but i will push to get the proper sexed animals so yes it is worth it

You want details.... you got it.

You just tossed the dirt in ontop of yourself :lmao:

Ya'll stand by ..... because tomarrow.... there will be more information brought to light about our dear little Andrew ..... Including the audio files . I have to go to work.... but you can bet I will be working on his post when I get home.

You'll especially love how he says..... since Im now labeled as a bad guy..... you know what bad guys do... they dont pay ya.... or something along those lines.

Andrew... you brought this on yourself. I have been nothing but professional and freindly with you... then you want to call and leave a voicemail cussin and threatening me......

Hell NO!!!!

Try to deny it..... some of the members here have already heard that first voicemail.

I've heard the voice mail - which is out right disgusting behavior and certainly not the behavior expected of any forum member, let alone a long term member from here. I can't imagine how I'd feel coming home to a threatening message laced with the "F" word right through out it left on my machine and the kids have already heard it.... there is no excuse for not paying Kevin and there is certainly no excuse for that voice mail....

Kevin is not to blame to here - the responsibility rests solely on you and your actions Andrew. You owe him that money, there is no debate. Extremely disappointing.

Andrew, I sent you a PM a few days ago to remind you about the BLBL Christian Church. I know you've been having a hard time of it, but listening to that voice mail was disturbing to say the least. I'm not here to judge, however, I will tell you that there are ways to fix this, and you know what they are. If you want to chat, I'm more than willing.

Ron, I know this must have been hard for you, but you know as well as I do that it would have been wrong to remain silent as a member here acts this way. On the one hand, it looks bad for a member here to do this, but on the other, it would be worse if he was not held accountable.

like i said he is going to get his money i am not going to fight about this any more i have had the hardest year of my life and he will get his money i am not out to start fights with any one i did have the hardest year ever and at the time i ordered the animale this were going great but now things are getting back to normal like i said he will have his money before the end of next week i do not need to go into details as to every thing but the list he has is just part of it .sorry he will have his money befor the end of next week

like i said he is going to get his money i am not going to fight about this any more i have had the hardest year of my life and he will get his money i am not out to start fights with any one i did have the hardest year ever and at the time i ordered the animale this were going great but now things are getting back to normal like i said he will have his money before the end of next week i do not need to go into details as to every thing but the list he has is just part of it .sorry he will have his money befor the end of next week

Andrew, you said in the voice mail message that you had the money. Why does he need to wait till the end of next week if you have it?

Sounds like the typical excuse from someone who is not going to make good on this. I have the money but you need to wait longer. Total BS. If you have it, pay it now.

like i said he is going to get his money i am not going to fight about this any more i have had the hardest year of my life and he will get his money i am not out to start fights with any one i did have the hardest year ever and at the time i ordered the animale this were going great but now things are getting back to normal like i said he will have his money before the end of next week i do not need to go into details as to every thing but the list he has is just part of it .sorry he will have his money befor the end of next week

That would be the right move - resolve it. I think Kevin deserves to receive what is owed... I think he also deserves an apology from you for those messages that you left him. He sent those snakes to you as a friend and he's been a very patient friend towards you all this time over the 10 months this has dragged on, but if you have it now, why not resolve it sooner?

Although, I have no idea why you have been asking me what I have available when you still owe on snakes already received 10 months ago. I'm sure I'm not the only one you have asked what they have available.... but I'd look to resolve this ASAP....

Andrew, I sent you a PM a few days ago to remind you about the BLBL Christian Church. I know you've been having a hard time of it, but listening to that voice mail was disturbing to say the least. I'm not here to judge, however, I will tell you that there are ways to fix this, and you know what they are. If you want to chat, I'm more than willing.

Ron, I know this must have been hard for you, but you know as well as I do that it would have been wrong to remain silent as a member here acts this way. On the one hand, it looks bad for a member here to do this, but on the other, it would be worse if he was not held accountable.

I refuse to remain quiet as a person takes it in the rear over something as simple as $120. And everyone here knows me well enough to know that I dont care who you are, if you are screwing someone over, I will tell people about it. Andrew, if you have the money pay him. Holding the money is childish and petty. The longer this drags on, the worse you look.....

That would be the right move - resolve it. I think Kevin deserves to receive what is owed... I think he also deserves an apology from you for those messages that you left him. He sent those snakes to you as a friend and he's been a very patient friend towards you all this time over the 10 months this has dragged on, but if you have it now, why not resolve it sooner?

Although, I have no idea why you have been asking me what I have available when you still owe on snakes already received 10 months ago. I'm sure I'm not the only one you have asked what they have available.... but I'd look to resolve this ASAP....

:yes:

Ron, I know this must have been hard for you, but you know as well as I do that it would have been wrong to remain silent as a member here acts this way. On the one hand, it looks bad for a member here to do this, but on the other, it would be worse if he was not held accountable.

Mike is so pleasant....he needs a swift kick in the ass....

Andrew.....:nono:

Where are these audio recordings? I want to hear all the 'detales'!!! :lmao:

Mike is so pleasant....he needs a swift kick in the ass....

Andrew.....:nono:

:yes:

Mike is so pleasant....he needs a swift kick in the ass....


Come and get me, tough guy....:ass:

Better?

Where are these audio recordings? I want to hear all the 'detales'!!! :lmao:

It's gonna take a bit. I just found out some news yesterday that puts Andrew and his BS way on the back burner.... right now... Im drained.... and dont have the will or energy to write up the post.

Maybe middle of the week I'll fill like rejoining the living.... but right now... I really dont.

Hope things improve for you, Kevin. Prayers are with ya!

Hope its nothing too serious Kevin.

like i said he is going to get his money i am not going to fight about this any more i have had the hardest year of my life and he will get his money i am not out to start fights with any one i did have the hardest year ever and at the time i ordered the animale this were going great but now things are getting back to normal like i said he will have his money before the end of next week i do not need to go into details as to every thing but the list he has is just part of it .sorry he will have his money befor the end of next week

Are you paying him now because all this came to light? Hate to say that even after you get square with Kevin I would never do any business with you unless I had the money first.

Really thought you were a better person than this. I feel like a fool.:mad:

Damn!!!!!!

Conduct unbecoming.... Page 11..... dishonorable KICK IN THE ASS!!!!!

Come and get me, tough guy....:ass:

Better?

lol

Not you ...Andrew....

Conduct unbecoming.... Page 11..... dishonorable KICK IN THE ASS!!!!!

Since he would have preferred this kept Private


I think he needs an Article 15 Demotion from the Commanding Generals of the league!!! :yessir:

Since he would have preferred this kept Private


I think he needs an Article 15 Demotion from the Commanding Generals of the league!!! :yessir:

Already been done bro... busted to CPT from LTC.

Since he would have preferred this kept Private


I think he needs an Article 15 Demotion from the Commanding Generals of the league!!! :yessir:

I forgot you guys were all Army nerds... article 15. the corps was page 11. :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

I forgot you guys were all Army nerds... article 15. the corps was page 11. :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

:ass: Gotta keep it simpler for the jarheads.... page 11.... :lmao: :D

Already been done bro... busted to CPT from LTC.

:yessir:

:ass: Gotta keep it simpler for the jarheads.... page 11.... :lmao: :D

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

I forgot you guys were all Army nerds... article 15. the corps was page 11. :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Shad,

I have never been in the military....but the Article 15 was something in the space between my ears....interestingly I thought it was Article 11.....

Ron,

Too bad they don't post demotions like they do promotions in the league....

You know where Mike's was posted....seems like a suitable punishment. :yessir:

Is there any rule prohibiting that? :dunno:

Also, Andrew, if you are reading this, I appreciate your pledge to get Kevin paid. That's a good start to resolving this. However....there are questions that have been asked here that you have been ignoring. You need to account for your actions.

Is there any rule prohibiting that? :dunno:

Also, Andrew, if you are reading this, I appreciate your pledge to get Kevin paid. That's a good start to resolving this. However....there are questions that have been asked here that you have been ignoring. You need to account for your actions.

I agree Andrew. Regardless of you troubles, Kevin deserves his money and I think the people you have shared forum space with over the last few years deserve a few answers.

I agree Andrew. Regardless of you troubles, Kevin deserves his money and I think the people you have shared forum space with over the last few years deserve a few answers.

Ron,

I hate to say this but you and Mike are wasting your breath.....

Ron,

I hate to say this but you and Mike are wasting your breath.....

I breathe at the same pace if I'm typing or not. :p Even so, I don't think it's a waste. He's part of a community, and it may help to show how much this community means to him.

Hope its nothing too serious Kevin.

Actually.... it is

Really thought you were a better person than this. I feel like a fool.:mad:

Makes two of us T

Actually.... it is

Well I hope it turns out for the best for ya man....

May be time to let the right hand know what the left is doing....could get either results or a clearer picture of how things stand and are run in that business.

May be time to let the right hand know what the left is doing....could get either results or a clearer picture of how things stand and are run in that business.

Could you clarify what that means?

Could you clarify what that means?

I think she means tell his wife about what hes doing.......

I think she means tell his wife about what hes doing.......

Like she doesn't know.... If I remember right, some animals he bought off me maybe a year ago were paid for with a check signed by her....

Like she doesn't know.... If I remember right, some animals he bought off me maybe a year ago were paid for with a check signed by her....

Who knows.....I don't tell my wife everything I buy......:lmao:

Who knows.....I don't tell my wife everything I buy......:lmao:

:cheers:

Like she doesn't know.... If I remember right, some animals he bought off me maybe a year ago were paid for with a check signed by her....

Thank you, Bill, that is exactly what I meant.

That may be true Sput, but as things stand now, it's business as usual for them, and she can claim ignorance...neither of these options will get our friend his money back....so I am all for pushing the envelope a bit farther and seeing what develops..can't hurt, might help.:dunno:

Thank you, Bill, that is exactly what I meant.

That may be true Sput, but as things stand now, it's business as usual for them, and she can claim ignorance...neither of these options will get our friend his money back....so I am all for pushing the envelope a bit farther and seeing what develops..can't hurt, might help.:dunno:

Okay.... wanted to make sure, in case you knew something we didn't. See what happens. If he shows up to post again.... :dunno:

Okay.... wanted to make sure, in case you knew something we didn't. See what happens. If he shows up to post again.... :dunno:

Don't hold your breath...he is done talking about this.....

To be honest, I dont care if he comes back around here. After hearing about the messages he left, all the bs excuses, and how he treated a "friend", I dont think he fits in around here after all. His actions are not only unbecoming of an officer here, but as a member of this club as well. No matter what the outcome of this situation is, I am done with Andrew.

To be honest, I dont care if he comes back around here. After hearing about the messages he left, all the bs excuses, and how he treated a "friend", I dont think he fits in around here after all. His actions are not only unbecoming of an officer here, but as a member of this club as well. No matter what the outcome of this situation is, I am done with Andrew.

Agreed - if it gets resolved - it's only because of the fact it's been brought to light or the excuses Kevin was getting would of continued.

This behavior isn't acceptable by any club member - there is no excuse for it - unfortunate, but he has brought this entirely on himself.

Agreed - if it gets resolved - it's only because of the fact it's been brought to light or the excuses Kevin was getting would of continued.

This behavior isn't acceptable by any club member - there is no excuse for it - unfortunate, but he has brought this entirely on himself.

:cheers:

Agreed - if it gets resolved - it's only because of the fact it's been brought to light or the excuses Kevin was getting would of continued.

This behavior isn't acceptable by any club member - there is no excuse for it - unfortunate, but he has brought this entirely on himself.

:cheers:

:ass: Gotta keep it simpler for the jarheads.... page 11.... :lmao: :D

I resent that statement. LOL.

Andrew left me a voicemail..... said that he dropped a money order in the mail on friday.... I should be seeing it sometime next week. I'll keep you updated.

Are you paying him now because all this came to light? Hate to say that even after you get square with Kevin I would never do any business with you unless I had the money first.

Really thought you were a better person than this. I feel like a fool.:mad:
He inquired about me doing a logo......its people like this that make me want 100% down instead of the only 50% that is recommended :/ Its unfortunate.


Who knows.....I don't tell my wife everything I buy......:lmao:
:lmao: :cheers:

Andrew left me a voicemail..... said that he dropped a money order in the mail on friday.... I should be seeing it sometime next week. I'll keep you updated.

Hope you get your money... :yessir:

I got a postal money order in the mail today from Andrew. He sent the $120 and this bill is now paid in full.

It's sad that it took the issue being posted on a forum just to get your money. At least it is over now.

It's sad that it took the issue being posted on a forum just to get your money. At least it is over now.

I agree. What's the use of closing the barn door after the horses have escaped.:nono:..but it's good that the buyer attempted to make amends.

Glad to hear you finally got your money.

Good to hear Kevin.... doesn't change what he did, just pays off the debt.

Andrew lets see this so called e-mail??



http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp184/JOHNS6068/ANDREW.png

hhmmmmm... and the plot thickens. Where is this email Andrew?

So Andrew is accusing Kevin of editing the emails to suit his needs, falsifying the content... if this is so, let's see some proof?

I'd also like to see this email that will sink Kevin....

So Andrew is accusing Kevin of editing the emails to suit his needs, falsifying the content... if this is so, let's see some proof?

I'd also like to see this email that will sink Kevin....

Knowing Andrew it's probably an e-mail that will sink himself even worse :lmao:

I'd like to see this email as well. Andrew you are a lying sack of shit!!!!!

There is no such email. I have EVERY email between us in a folder with your name one it. Would you like me to post the email where you claim that you owe another person money as well, but he was willing to let you borrow the money to pay me back ONLY if the house deal didnt go thru. At least that is the story you told me when I asked why you couldnt' just borrow the money from him and then pay him back at the end of the month. I had been waiting for 10 months to get paid. The way I saw it... you had available money.... but didnt want to pay your debts. Guess he didnt want to lend out any more money than he had too.

Andrew.... you paid your debt and I kept my end of the bargin. I came on here and the BOI and let everyone know that you did what was right. And now tonight... you want to start some shit. I dont think so.

You made your bed... .now your gonna have to lie in it. You remember the last IM you sent me before I blocked your ass because of it.

Here... let me refresh your memory


Session Start (southernwolf1973:ardeas5): Tue Aug 24 00:37:14 2010 -0500
ardeas5: did you get your money
Southern Wolf: I got the 120 today... thank you. I posted on both the blbc and fauna
ardeas5: posting about it doesnt fix it i told you the 20 th and you could not give me 5 more days , i didnt pay you because of the threads i paid you because i owed you the money i dont care about fauna i cant see any thing on there anyway
Southern Wolf: you told me you'd send payment on alot of days... and they never showed up
ardeas5: for the last 10 months i could not even send you $5 i had kids to feed
ardeas5: no i never once told you it was sent i said i would send it they are not the same
Southern Wolf: thank you for making payment....
ardeas5: well i hope you never fall on hard times like i just went though
ardeas5: if i was the type of man to hold a grudge i would wait for you to make some mistakes and jump right on it but i am not like that
ardeas5: well i hope karma dont hit you because what you did was wrong *** "ardeas5 (ardeas5)" signed off at Tue Aug 24 00:46:03 2010.

Here... I'll even hilight some things for ya

Guess what.... that Karma just bit you in the ass you lying sack of shit.

I have everything I need to back up my story... including these little voicemails that I wasn't gonna post because you had paid your debt. All bets are off now

The first voicemail that our dear ol Andrew left me
http://s429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/RidgeTopReptiles/Videos/?action=view&current=SnowmansRant1.mp4

The second voicemail that our dear ol Andrew left me
http://s429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/RidgeTopReptiles/Videos/?action=view&current=SnowmansRant2.mp4

The third voicemail that our dear ol Andrew left me
http://s429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/RidgeTopReptiles/Videos/?action=view&current=SnowmansRant3.mp4

The forth and fifth I just put on one since they were being listend to at the same time
http://s429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/RidgeTopReptiles/Videos/?action=view&current=SnowmansRant4.mp4


You wanna run your mouth... lets see your proof. And yes I will ask that you back it up with more than just a copy/paste. How about forwarding that email to Sputnik... if it really exists. A FORWARD... dont send a new one.... just click the FORWARD button. I know why you wont... because there is nothing... .nothing exists.

Andrew... you were in the wrong... and if you were smart you would have just dropped it. Apparently your not that smart.

Well the Karma really took a chunk out of your ass. Enjoy the publicity.

So Andrew is accusing Kevin of editing the emails to suit his needs, falsifying the content... if this is so, let's see some proof?

I'd also like to see this email that will sink Kevin....

I have 293 emails in a folder titled "Snowman". It is these emails where I posted my proof.

Andrew... Lets see what you have. IF I could figure out a way to send out the whole folder... Id send it to whoever wants it.

Andrew... Im not trying to hide a damn thing.. .and I CAN back up my claims.

Well Andrew, looks like the ball is in your court. Put up or shut up time my man. You say you have proof Kevin did something wrong, then post it. If not, you really are as low as this entire situation makes you look. Sad....

Well Andrew, looks like the ball is in your court. Put up or shut up time my man. You say you have proof Kevin did something wrong, then post it. If not, you really are as low as this entire situation makes you look. Sad....

Not the first time he's spread BS lies in pm's.......

I really want to see this so called proof.

Wow I just listend to the voice mails what a sack of shit.

Wow, those crickets are pretty loud!

i think its pretty shady- first to say its ok that he miss sexed em and after he put the whole situation out here (just to get back what u own him- cause u didnt react without this shit), u say u want money and u changed ur mind.

i dont think u would get threw with this shit in a court case. thats just shady as heck.

sorry man...

I really want to see this so called proof.

He must be having a hard time finding that email....

He was signed on just a minute ago and still couldn't post it.......

The silence is deafening Andrew.... But does tell the truth of the matter. There is no email other than the ones Kevin posted. Just another nail in your proverbial coffin bro....

Why is he not banned yet? To reply to this thread?

Why is he not banned yet? To reply to this thread?

I think you are correct.
As of now he hasn't come forward with much.

That was the intention but we all believe it is obvious that he wasn't planning on doing more than drumming up support with empty threats behind the scenes, this is not the type of person we want on the boards and this is not the type of person that we want with any rank here, the rank is stripped and he has been banned from our boards permanently as of right now.

That was the intention but we all believe it is obvious that he wasn't planning on doing more than drumming up support with empty threats behind the scenes, this is not the type of person we want on the boards and this is not the type of person that we want with any rank here, the rank is stripped and he has been banned from our boards permanently as of right now.

Yes Sir - he last viewed this thread 2 hrs ago. He had been asked questions by the members here and he has completely ignored them. He has also ignored requests to show proof of this so called email that will sink Kevin and show proof that the emails Kevin posted were indeed edited to create a false account of what happened. It's obvious he couldn't follow through on any of his claims because they are lies!

Just complete deceitful behavior from someone with no remorse for their actions - he just thought he could get away with spreading rumors behind backs - no apology to Kevin for the voice mails he left. Nothing. The right decision was taken. :yessir:

He must be having a hard time finding that email....

Im thinking he's still trying to fabricate it out of thin air. Unlike Andrew... I can put evidence where my mouth is. I can forward any email to anyone. I didnt edit anything ... its all a copy / paste from the originals into the BOI thread.

no apology to Kevin for the voice mails he left. Nothing. The right decision was taken. :yessir:

Actually let me clear this up right here... right now.

He did apologize to me about the voicemails. It was one of about 3 or 4 that I didn't record because I thought the matter was over with since payment had been made.

Let me clairify a timeline for you so you understand.

Voicemails 1-5 happend BEFORE someone close to me lost their babies. At this point... I didnt care about Andrew, what we had going on, or anything else. My focus was on her and her alone. I was still dealing with this when Andrew made the payment to settle the debt. I never thought about recording all the other voicemails that he left me. This is why the voicemails never got posted originally when I said I would. I had more important things to deal with.

Actually let me clear this up right here... right now.

He did apologize to me about the voicemails. It was one of about 3 or 4 that I didn't record because I thought the matter was over with since payment had been made.

Let me clairify a timeline for you so you understand.

Voicemails 1-5 happend BEFORE someone close to me lost their babies. At this point... I didnt care about Andrew, what we had going on, or anything else. My focus was on her and her alone. I was still dealing with this when Andrew made the payment to settle the debt. I never thought about recording all the other voicemails that he left me. This is why the voicemails never got posted originally when I said I would. I had more important things to deal with.

Correction noted -

That was the intention but we all believe it is obvious that he wasn't planning on doing more than drumming up support with empty threats behind the scenes, this is not the type of person we want on the boards and this is not the type of person that we want with any rank here, the rank is stripped and he has been banned from our boards permanently as of right now.

Yes Sir - he last viewed this thread 2 hrs ago. He had been asked questions by the members here and he has completely ignored them. He has also ignored requests to show proof of this so called email that will sink Kevin and show proof that the emails Kevin posted were indeed edited to create a false account of what happened. It's obvious he couldn't follow through on any of his claims because they are lies!



What you want to bet he blames me for this

What you want to bet he blames me for this

It doesn't matter - he doesn't have a leg to stand on....

He didnt have a leg to stand on to begin with. I gave him every option to make it right. I offered him more than double what he paid for a pair of snakes so I could get them back and would take that amount off his bill.

But after the 10 month mark came and went with only a $30 payment towards the bill... I just couldnt wait and hope Id get paid. At this point I had wrote off the debt as a bad business move and decided to learn from it... and also inform others of his dealings so maybe they wouldnt get caught up as well.

And considering a phone call that I received.... someone was thankfull that I did post it and post the voicemails.

That was the intention but we all believe it is obvious that he wasn't planning on doing more than drumming up support with empty threats behind the scenes, this is not the type of person we want on the boards and this is not the type of person that we want with any rank here, the rank is stripped and he has been banned from our boards permanently as of right now.

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