Check your PMs :)

Your dying aren't you Winston! :p

lol this guy is tough to get ahold of :)

cracking me up man.:lmao:

HE never answered one of my PM's either

I don't know the guy but in his defense, I know that little indicator for PM's is not very noticeable. ;)

Good luck on trying to get a hold of him, there is multiple threads about AC never answering emails or phone calls. I purchased some crested gecko's from him a few years ago but it was real hard for him to keep communication when I was making the purchase. Never the less I did receive my order.

Just to be clear I am not trying to bash Anthony in any way shape or form. I just saw that he was viewing this forum earlier today and thought this might get his attention lol

I don't know the guy but in his defense, I know that little indicator for PM's is not very noticeable. ;)

Yea, your the worst! :lmao:

Yea, your the worst! :lmao:

Nope! Jeremy is the worst!:lmao::lmao::lmao:
Anthony, trust me, answer you PM!!!!!!!:cheers:

Your awesome Sara :yes:

I think its really funny how this turned into a real thread. :lmao:

uh oh - what did I miss?

I just logged in and have a new PM, but haven't checked it?

Just for the record, Winston emailed me wanting to share pictures of "secret projects". Apparently that couldn't wait, so he started this thread.

And now I'm getting bashed for not returning that email promptly enough. This kind of bullshit is why I stay off of forums. Apparently this one is no longer safe either.

HE never answered one of my PM's either

Apparently I missed it, but seriously....you're going to trash talk because I didn't answer a PM asking what local veterinarian I use?

Why don't you take a look at my website? My vet is listed right on the links page.

Just for the record, Winston emailed me wanting to share pictures of "secret projects". Apparently that couldn't wait, so he started this thread.

This is why I stay the hell off of forums. Apparently this one is no longer safe either.

Don't be cranky. ALOT of people miss their PM's here, if you don't get the pop up notice then you don't even see it's there, that is why he was getting your attention here. It wasn't meant to be a "real" thread, and can't comment about the rest. But will say that Winston was just trying to let you know you had one hiding up there.:yes::cheers::cheers:

Good luck on trying to get a hold of him, there is multiple threads about AC never answering emails or phone calls. I purchased some crested gecko's from him a few years ago but it was real hard for him to keep communication when I was making the purchase. Never the less I did receive my order.

Got any proof? Not real kosher to come on here and trash the guy like this unless you have proof..... You sure do like to stir it up dont you?

I have no need to go to your site, your into animals that I'm not.

All I was trying to do was ask a fellow local guy what vet he used and find out how he liked them.

You never answered it and I said I had the same issue of trying to get ahold of you.

No big deal bro.....




Just for the record, Winston emailed me wanting to share pictures of "secret projects". Apparently that couldn't wait, so he started this thread.

And now I'm getting bashed for not returning that email promptly enough. This kind of bullshit is why I stay off of forums. Apparently this one is no longer safe either.



Apparently I missed it, but seriously....you're going to trash talk because I didn't answer a PM asking what local veterinarian I use?

Why don't you take a look at my website? My vet is listed right on the links page.

Don't be cranky. ALOT of people miss their PM's here, if you don't get the pop up notice then you don't even see it's there, that is why he was getting your attention here. It wasn't meant to be a "real" thread, and can't comment about the rest. But will say that Winston was just trying to let you know you had one hiding up there.:yes::cheers::cheers:

Don't be cranky? Look at what this thread turned into. Total bullshit (yeah - I'm officially pissed).

Dude... chill.... it aint that big of a deal bro....

I can see that... I was just trying to explain that Winston wasn't doing anything but trying to let you know, that's all.

Wow. This got way out of hand way fast. This was not ment to start anything. I was just excited to talk to Anthony. I'm sorry I ever posted this.

Wow. This got way out of hand way fast. This was not ment to start anything. I was just excited to talk to Anthony. I'm sorry I ever posted this.

Not your fault winston..... I think some people need to check themselves though..... geez....

I have no need to go to your site, your into animals that I'm not.

All I was trying to do was ask a fellow local guy what vet he used and find out how he liked them.

You never answered it and I said I had the same issue of trying to get ahold of you.

No big deal bro.....

Actually BRO - When you're talking negatively about me on a public forum because I forgot to reply to a private message about my vet (who is listed on my website), it sure as hell is a big deal to me. You purposely didn't mention what you wanted because you knew it would sound stupid - so you just left it vague so that people would assume you actually had a legitimate reason to try and contact me. That was a slimeball move on your part and I'll remember it.

I breed reptiles for a living, but I post here for fun. If posting here for fun means that I now have to keep tabs daily on my private messages (as part of my JOB), then I will just quit posting here.

Not talking negatively, I tried to get ahold of you, and never could, and said I couldn't.

Didnt say crap about your animals, your setup, accuse you of anything, etc etc

Relax man







Actually BRO - When you're talking negatively about me on a public forum, it sure as hell is a big deal to me.

Not talking negatively, I tried to get ahold of you, and never could, and said I couldn't.

Didnt say crap about your animals, your setup, accuse you of anything, etc etc

Relax man

Anthony, the only person that said anything negative was Ophiuchus who LOVES stirring up crap.

Good luck on trying to get a hold of him, there is multiple threads about AC never answering emails or phone calls. I purchased some crested gecko's from him a few years ago but it was real hard for him to keep communication when I was making the purchase. Never the less I did receive my order.

WHy you being so sensitive about this??? :dunno:

Not your fault winston..... I think some people need to check themselves though..... geez....

Ron,

Don't tell me to chill or check myself. This is what I do for a living. My name is being smeared publicly for not reading my PM's for 48 hours....and both were PM's that had absolutely nothing to do with any kind of business.

Now how would you feel?

I breed reptiles for a living, but I post here for fun. If posting here for fun means that I now have to keep tabs daily on my private messages (as part of my JOB), then I will just quit posting here.

Wow........ says a lot about you man......

Ron,

Don't tell me to chill or check myself. This is what I do for a living. My name is being smeared publicly for not reading my PM's for 48 hours....and both were PM's that had absolutely nothing to do with any kind of business.

Now how would you feel?

Your name isnt being "smeared" except by one shit stirrer who does it to EVERYONE. If someone posted this about me, I wouldnt get all pissy about it and start being a jerk to people. You do realize some of these people ARE your customers who help make your LIVING dont you????? Seems it would be good PR not be so damn rude to them. :dunno:

PM's can be really hard to see. Allot of people never notice them. Thats the ONLY reason I put this up. I saw he was logged in and though it might catch his eye. It was meant completely playfully. Anthony has in no way done anything at all dissresectful or inconsiderate.
Anthony, I am truely sorry for what this thread turned into. It was NEVER my intention for this to happen.

Wow........ says a lot about you man......

I'm a busy person. If posting here for fun is just going to make my job more complicated, then I will not post here so much.

If you think that makes me a bad person, then I don't even know what to say.

FWIW I sent you the PM regarding a local vet MONTHS ago....

People miss their PM's all the time!!! Geeze, Bruce was just saying last night that he missed that he had PM's in his box. Nobody was talking smack about you Anthony, except ONE person that nobody here cares about. Getting angry with others though isn't really in order. Trevor didn't need to get called names, he had just said that there was a pm not answered, that is all.

I can't believe how twisted this whole thing has become, wasn't meant to be and shouldn't have been.

I'm a busy person. If posting here for fun is just going to make my job more complicated, then I will not post here so much.

If you think that makes me a bad person, then I don't even know what to say.

Again, you are a big name in the industry and people see you posting here. They want to talk to you. It could be a customer or future customer, you dont know. Winston already said it was done playfully... thats what we are all about here. You are making a big deal about this because of what one person said.... do you think what that person said is going to make you go bankrupt?????? Let it go man.... let it go.

Everyone grab a cold beer and take a deep breath.... it tastes so much better after it!

Everyone grab a cold beer and take a deep breath.... it tastes so much better after it!

What tastes better sput? :lmao:

What tastes better sput? :lmao:

The oxygen.... God, the beer does, the beer does!!! Whatta you think??? :lmao:

The oxygen.... God, the beer does, the beer does!!! Whatta you think??? :lmao:

OK bro, just checking..... :D

I just saved a shit ton on my car insurance...:)

I just saved a shit ton on my car insurance...:)

Switching from Geiko? :yes:

Your name isnt being "smeared" except by one shit stirrer who does it to EVERYONE. If someone posted this about me, I wouldnt get all pissy about it and start being a jerk to people. You do realize some of these people ARE your customers who help make your LIVING dont you????? Seems it would be good PR not be so damn rude to them. :dunno:

Ron,

Let's get real for a second. If there is a problem member here who does this to everyone, then it seems to me they should be banned from this website. That being said, do you really think I've spent enough time on this forum to know who the problem members are? And do you really think it's fair to blame me for getting pissed off when they start in on me?

And let's not act like I'm being rude to everyone - the only people I've been rude to are the ones who turned this thread into this. That would be Trevor and the "problem member" (who doesn't even post his/her real name).

I'm quite confident that the other 99% of the people unfortunate enough to have to read this will at least understand my frustration, if not the way I deal with it. lol

Everyone grab a cold beer and take a deep breath.... it tastes so much better after it!

I think I need a deep breath of something a little stronger. lol

Ron,

Let's get real for a second. If there is a problem member here who does this to everyone, then it seems to me they should be banned from this website. That being said, do you really think I've spent enough time on this forum to know who the problem members are? And do you really think it's fair to blame me for getting pissed off when they start in on me?

And let's not act like I'm being rude to everyone - the only people I've been rude to are the ones who turned this thread into this. That would be Trevor and the "problem member" (who doesn't even post his/her real name).

I'm quite confident that the other 99% of the people unfortunate enough to have to read this will at least understand my frustration, if not the way I deal with it. lol
Anthony,
Trust me when I say I am as real as it gets, maybe even a little too real for some people.
So banning people without them actually breaking any rules is something you think we should do here? Just because the person is an asshole doesnt mean they should be banned. I was simply pointing out it was ONE person being a total ass, not the entire forum.
I am blaming you for getting pissed at all. Is it really worth it over something so stupid?

Hey Anthony, I honestly had hoped this thread hadnt turned the way it did, wasnt my intention.

I had hoped you would have seen the thread and apologized for not noticing the PM's and responded to me and possibly the other member instead of going the way it did.

Now sure, if you've got secret projects going on, that may or may not be something to talk about, and thats cool.

Ron's right though, the way you handle or carry yourself in private is one thing, but once your on public forums, its gotta change if your quick to get upset or have another personality that is gonna get you in trouble. It'll end up costing you sales or give people the wrong impression about you.

Ron is correct about the customer part, for instance, I have been wanting to inquire about an animal you have/had and would have dropped some cash with you on it if I ended up picking it up......

Like they said, this little thread isnt going to destroy your career, but it did cost you a potential sale with me, not that I'm anybody, but its a reality.

I wish you the best of luck with future endeavors and hope that this thread is a learning experience, I know it was for me.

Take care man

Anthony,
Is it really worth it over something so stupid?

If by something so stupid, you mean my reputation and what people say about me in public, over something like not checking my PM's on a forum, then absolutely.

Again Ron - this is my livelihood. This is just silly bullshit to you, but it can affect my ability to make a living. You really need to think about what that means and how you would feel if you were in my shoes before you pass judgement on me.

If by something so stupid, you mean my reputation and what people say about me in public, over something like not checking my PM's on a forum, then absolutely.

Again Ron - this is my livelihood. This is just silly bullshit to you, but it can affect my ability to make a living. You really need to think about what that means and how you would feel if you were in my shoes before you pass judgement on me.

Read what Trevor posted above. If it happened that way instead of the way it has, maybe we wouldnt be having this conversation right now.....

Best of luck to you Anthony.

I have no need to go to your site, your into animals that I'm not.


I have been wanting to inquire about an animal you have/had and would have dropped some cash with you on it if I ended up picking it up......

Like they said, this little thread isnt going to destroy your career, but it did cost you a potential sale with me


Hmmm... :rolleyes:

The animal was a Blood Python you posted a picture of a couple years ago on another forum








Hmmm... :rolleyes:

Trust me I know how it is to work 60 - 70 hours a week non-stop. Dealing with certain situations can make you want to snap. I thought owning my business I could finally tell people what I think. What I learned is I have to bite my tongue more now than ever.

Sput you owe me a beer because I think it is the only time the rest of this year I am going to get a chance to sit down and enjoy it.

Read what Trevor posted above. If it happened that way instead of the way it has, maybe we wouldnt be having this conversation right now.....

Best of luck to you Anthony.

I explained how this is from my perspective and it's quite apparent that you have nothing of any substance to say to that. If this, then maybe...best of luck..I don't even know what your last post is supposed to mean.

Again, this is my livelihood AND my hobby since I was a little kid - I take it more seriously than most of you can even imagine. If you can't comprehend that and you just want to teach someone a life lesson, pick someone else.

As much as you apparently would like to dance around the bottom line, I didn't deserve to be attacked in this thread and I don't care who the member was or what excuses you want to make for them.

I explained how this is from my perspective and it's quite apparent that you have nothing of any substance to say to that. If this, then maybe...best of luck..I don't even know what your last post is supposed to mean.

Again, this is my livelihood AND my hobby since I was a little kid - I take it more seriously than most of you can even imagine. If you can't comprehend that and you just want to teach someone a life lesson, pick someone else.

As much as you apparently would like to dance around the bottom line, I didn't deserve to be attacked in this thread and I don't care who the member was or what excuses you want to make for them.

Since you want to continue to be a dick instead of dropping it like everyone has suggested, we can keep going. And I believe you keeping this going is showing YOUR lack of substance in your character and business sense.
Apparently you think you are doing us a HUGE favor by making an appearance here and blessing all of us lowly hobbyist with your presence. Get over yourself Anthony. You arent the only person in the world who does this for a living or the only person here who has been keeping reptiles since they were a kid.
I am trying to make you see that by defending your lack of simply answering a pm another member sent you, you are making yourself look like you only give a shit what anybody has to say to you when they are buying something from you. Get it now?

Trust me I know how it is to work 60 - 70 hours a week non-stop. Dealing with certain situations can make you want to snap. I thought owning my business I could finally tell people what I think. What I learned is I have to bite my tongue more now than ever.

Sput you owe me a beer because I think it is the only time the rest of this year I am going to get a chance to sit down and enjoy it.

Gee, now there is a person that gets it.....

Got any proof? Not real kosher to come on here and trash the guy like this unless you have proof..... You sure do like to stir it up dont you?

Wow, who do you think you are coming at me sideways? Do you have a problem with me? As far as bashing Anthony your mistaken, I never bashed anyone. I need no proof Anthony himself has said several times that he's bad at checking emails and getting back in a prompt manner. Not only that Winston pm'd me for Anthony's number and I gave it to him, if I was hatting I wouldn't have gave it to him.

Sounds like the only one creating a problem is you!

Apparently you think you are doing us a HUGE favor by making an appearance here and blessing all of us lowly hobbyist with your presence. Get over yourself Anthony.

You have me all wrong. I come over here for the ball pythons and I'm a nobody when it comes to ball pythons.

I am trying to make you see that by defending your lack of simply answering a pm another member sent you, you are making yourself look like you only give a shit what anybody has to say to you when they are buying something from you. Get it now?


No - the reason I missed the PM is because you can't tell if they're read or not by looking at the icons. I didn't even know I had missed one until I saw Trevor's post.

What I'm saying is that when "problem member" posted and then Trevor chimed in to say that he had a similar experience, he probably should have mentioned that his similar experience had nothing to do with any business we were doing. That was my point of saying it had nothing to do with business.


Again - I come here to hang out and talk ball pythons. Not to sell stuff, not to grace anyone with my presence.

You apparently had some preconceived idea of who you think I am as a person, and you thought this thread would be a golden opportunity to tell me off. Nice job, Ron.

You have me all wrong. I come over here for the ball pythons and I'm a nobody when it comes to ball pythons.




No - the reason I missed the PM is because you can't tell if they're read or not by looking at the icons. I didn't even know I had missed one until I saw Trevor's post.

What I'm saying is that when "problem member" posted and then Trevor chimed in to say that he had a similar experience, he probably should have mentioned that his similar experience had nothing to do with any business we were doing. That was my point of saying it had nothing to do with business.


Again - I come here to hang out and talk ball pythons. Not to sell stuff, not to grace anyone with my presence.

You apparently had some preconceived idea of who you think I am as a person, and you thought this thread would be a golden opportunity to tell me off. Nice job, Ron.

Again with the arrogance man. I could give 2 farts in the wind about you. What do you think I would gain by telling you off? Exactly shit. You seem to have all the answers to everything so I will leave you to it.
Nice job, Anthony. :yes:

You have me all wrong. I come over here for the ball pythons and I'm a nobody when it comes to ball pythons.




No - the reason I missed the PM is because you can't tell if they're read or not by looking at the icons. I didn't even know I had missed one until I saw Trevor's post.

What I'm saying is that when "problem member" posted and then Trevor chimed in to say that he had a similar experience, he probably should have mentioned that his similar experience had nothing to do with any business we were doing. That was my point of saying it had nothing to do with business.


Again - I come here to hang out and talk ball pythons. Not to sell stuff, not to grace anyone with my presence.

You apparently had some preconceived idea of who you think I am as a person, and you thought this thread would be a golden opportunity to tell me off. Nice job, Ron.

Ok, Anthony you think I was bashing you? I wasn't bashing you, I was just stating what you have told me and my experience purchasing from you. As far as a problem member, I think ron made it clear he always puts his foot in his mouth, its become a problem.

Ok, Anthony you think I was bashing you? I wasn't bashing you, I was just stating what you have told me and my experience purchasing from you. As far as a problem member, I think ron made it clear he always puts his foot in his mouth, its become a problem.

:lmao::lmao::lmao: Go away moron.

:lmao::lmao::lmao: Go away moron.

What an idiot, I see its all a game for you.

:lmao::lmao::lmao: Go away moron.

What an idiot, I see its all a game for you.

Have you guys heard of the saloon? :yes:

What an idiot, I see its all a game for you.

You are now on my ignore list.

Have you guys heard of the saloon? :yes:

Your rite, Its now in the saloon.

Ron,

You call people names, attack their character and have absolutely nothing to do with any of this....and you're calling me arrogant and telling me to get over myself, while simultaneously telling me how to run my business and handle myself on a forum. Pot meet Kettle....

I'm sure you have it all figured out in your world, but in my world you're just some random stranger on the internet who's telling me how to run my business and calling me names.

And believe me...I have been biting my tongue.

Ron,

You call people names, attack their character and have absolutely nothing to do with any of this....and you're calling me arrogant and telling me to get over myself, while simultaneously telling me how to run my business and handle myself on a forum. Pot meet Kettle....

I'm sure you have it all figured out in your world, but in my world you're just some random stranger on the internet who's telling me how to run my business and calling me names.

And believe me...I have been biting my tongue.
When did I tell you how to run your business? I will say it again, I dont care about your business. It doesnt pay my bills or feed my kids. I simply pointed out you are making yourself look bad here by arguing about not responding to a pm. And yes, that does show something about your character. I didnt attack your character at all until you continually SHOWED it to everyone.
Keep digging Anthony. You already lost 2 potential customers because of this thread and the way you handled it.

You purposely didn't mention what you wanted because you knew it would sound stupid - so you just left it vague so that people would assume you actually had a legitimate reason to try and contact me. That was a slimeball move on your part and I'll remember it.

I breed reptiles for a living, but I post here for fun. If posting here for fun means that I now have to keep tabs daily on my private messages (as part of my JOB), then I will just quit posting here.

This is all part of online communication, just the same as emails contact with potential customers. You have the ability to turn off your private messages in the options feature in the user CP, but that aside how did you know it was something stupid if you didn't check it for months?

Part of owning a business is corresponding with people. Not everyone will be a customer of yours, but with your standing in the community you are going to have a lot of people who want to ask YOU questions because they respect your knowledge base and opinions.

Sometimes even if the questions have nothing to do with YOUR personal business and just the hobby in general it is in the business' best interest to either politely direct them to someone who can answer their questions, or try to respond. To me it is just showing the hobby respect if you take the time to help people even if they are not helping to directly pay your bills.

Lack of communication with people is just bad business in my opinion. When I was keeping ball pythons there were numbers of individuals that I had emailed with questions or looking for certain animals that just wouldn't take the time to respond or answer telephone calls. I can tell you this, they did NOT get my business nor a recommendation to anyone else to do business with them.

I agree with Jeff, if you can't be bothered with private messages do yourself a favor and turn them off. I know of other members that do this because they simply do not want to mess with keeping up with PMs from various forums.

Anthony, I find it amazing this has gone on for 5 pages.... I don't think for one moment your a bad guy Anthony, but I think dragging this on for 5 pages, claiming people are attacking you, trashing you and bashing you is ridiculous. You have done more damage to your own business image then what your claiming the two people did. They did nothing more then relate their experience with you.... neither of them said stay away from you or your not worth the effort or anything like it. Fact is people here will stand up and state what is on their mind. They'll tell it like it is.

A multitude of people on here have tried to calm you down and the situation down, but you have just gone on and on about it. I can tell you right now, just reading this whole thread it is off putting to see you act this way and over something as minor as a missed pm.

When you sign up to any forum and people see Anthony Caponetto is a member there, they will naturally use that forums PM system which is no different to emailing you, it's all electronic communication and each form of communication you receive is a potential customer in the making. They may just want to ask about what's available or want some advice from a keeper who is experienced. Either way, it's your responsibility to address those communications.... you missed it, you could of easily said sorry guys, my bad I missed the pm. Instead of going on a tirade that made you look less then approachable from a business stand point.



And let's not act like I'm being rude to everyone - the only people I've been rude to are the ones who turned this thread into this. That would be Trevor and the "problem member" (who doesn't even post his/her real name).

I'm quite confident that the other 99% of the people unfortunate enough to have to read this will at least understand my frustration, if not the way I deal with it. lol

You turned this thread into what it is - not the other two people who have barely even participated in it with just their related experience. For someone so concerned about how comments can have an impact on their lively hood, to be openly rude to a previous customer and a potential customer makes no sense to me. If it were me, I'd of seen it for what it is.... I need to work on my communication and how accessible I and my business are to people.

Like I said, I don't think for one moment your a bad guy. Take it for what it is worth, address how accessible you are to other members - if coming here and having to check pm's is too much effort, then turn it off....

We are all ambassadors to the hobby/business and to ourselves, every time you post, you are advertising your good name and business to all those that read it. :yes:

Here is another case where I really should stay out of it, but I'm hoping that another example will help.

Scott (Sputnik) had posted a picture of a stunning red tail boa in a photo contest here this month. I messaged him asking if he had any available, or if he planned to and said she was absolutely beautiful.
Now I haven't been here long enough to know what every one does and does not work with... he messaged back and thanked me for the compliment and said he no longer works with the boas....
He could have just ignored my pm b/c it wouldn't have gotten him a sale (since he doesn't work with them)-- but he responded immediately and was very polite. Next time I'm looking to buy BPs, which will be early next year, he WILL be someone I go to.

For me, quality animals comes first, then customer service... if someone is rude to me or ignores me, I don't want to give them my money-why should I? When there are so many people out there to buy from- we aren't limited in the slightest, so customer service is HUGE, and answering "stupid" PMs or emails is part of it...

I emailed Brian @ BHB a while back, asking about an odd snake he had, and we exchanged some pictures and talked about it. I didn't buy the snake b/c it wasn't quite what I was looking for but he was still prompt in his responses as well as being polite.

I know I'm not the only one that feels this way....

:dunno:

~Beth

Ron - You're not on my level - you're a dork who hangs out on the internet hoping to impress someone with all your wisdom and you tried to impart it on the wrong guy. Go screw with someone else - I promise you it will be much easier on your ego.

Scott - Before I start, I need to correct you - I actually wasn't rude to any customers (I know I said that, but the two people I was "openly" rude to were actually Ron and Trevor).

My entire gripe was about Trevor being so vindictive about not answering a PM that said "Welcome to the BLBC - by the way, what vet do you use?".

It's one thing for a disgruntled customer to get a dig in (an unhappy customer means I didn't do my job right at some point, period), but it's another for some guy who sent a PM on an internet discussion forum and then never followed up. Sometimes people do honestly miss things - that's why Winston said he posted this thread! I wasn't blowing him off and never said such a thing, nor did I ever defend blowing him off. I answer all kinds of stupid shit throughout the course of a week, and I generally enjoy doing so.

Yes, I have admittedly had email issues in the past - but having Trevor complain about missing that private message is like that celebrity (I think it was Arnold) who had one woman accuse him of sexual harassment and then every female he ever winked at started coming forwar. Sure, a handful of people have had real problems getting in touch because their emails were flat-out not getting to me (and that has been fixed). My point is that Trevor isn't one of them and was just piping up in that thread to be a dick (as Ron would put it).

I know you're probably friends with Ron, so I'm going to leave this alone, so as not to stir up any animosity between us.
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Jeff Chandler

You're entitled to your opinion, but you (and Ron and Scott) all need to realize that you're only seeing this through your own eyes.

I've been right there in your shoes as a hobbyist (it's fun!), but you guys have never been in mine. I answer 50-100 reptile emails per day and still have to run a breeding facility stocked with 5,000 animals....which requires dealing with a number of people, who all have their own quirks, issues and baggage. As easy as that sounds (yeah right), this is a tough business to figure out (there's no books or schools to learn from) and there's not always money around to pay more help when you're in the dreaded start-up phase.

Anyways, I fully disagree that answering PM's here should be part of my job...that's completely unreasonable. Again, I do not go to forums all that often - this is literally the only one I post on. Sometimes I don't even log in here for a month or two at a time.

Now I did turn off my PM's after this fiasco, but I think it's pretty damn ridiculous that I'm no longer able to use the PM feature for fear of what might happen if I don't log in for a while.

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OK - that's it from me. Sorry if I gave anyone the wrong impression (I'm not that big of a dick or I'd have been out of business long ago).

Ron - last word? :p

Ron - You're not on my level - you're a dork who hangs out on the internet hoping to impress someone with all your wisdom and you tried to impart it on the wrong guy. Go screw with someone else - I promise you it will be much easier on your ego.

Scott - Before I start, I need to correct you - I actually wasn't rude to any customers (I know I said that, but the two people I was "openly" rude to were actually Ron and Trevor).

My entire gripe was about Trevor being so vindictive about not answering a PM that said "Welcome to the BLBC - by the way, what vet do you use?".

It's one thing for a disgruntled customer to get a dig in (an unhappy customer means I didn't do my job right at some point, period), but it's another for some guy who sent a PM on an internet discussion forum and then never followed up. Sometimes people do honestly miss things - that's why Winston said he posted this thread! I wasn't blowing him off and never said such a thing, nor did I ever defend blowing him off. I answer all kinds of stupid shit throughout the course of a week, and I generally enjoy doing so.

Yes, I have admittedly had email issues in the past - but having Trevor complain about missing that private message is like that celebrity (I think it was Arnold) who had one woman accuse him of sexual harassment and then every female he ever winked at started coming forwar. Sure, a handful of people have had real problems getting in touch because their emails were flat-out not getting to me (and that has been fixed). My point is that Trevor isn't one of them and was just piping up in that thread to be a dick (as Ron would put it).

I know you're probably friends with Ron, so I'm going to leave this alone, so as not to stir up any animosity between us.
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Jeff Chandler

You're entitled to your opinion, but you (and Ron and Scott) all need to realize that you're only seeing this through your own eyes.

I've been right there in your shoes as a hobbyist (it's fun!), but you guys have never been in mine. I answer 50-100 reptile emails per day and still have to run a breeding facility stocked with 5,000 animals....which requires dealing with a number of people, who all have their own quirks, issues and baggage. As easy as that sounds (yeah right), this is a tough business to figure out (there's no books or schools to learn from) and there's not always money around to pay more help when you're in the dreaded start-up phase.

Anyways, I fully disagree that answering PM's here should be part of my job...that's completely unreasonable. Again, I do not go to forums all that often - this is literally the only one I post on. Sometimes I don't even log in here for a month or two at a time.

Now I did turn off my PM's after this fiasco, but I think it's pretty damn ridiculous that I'm no longer able to use the PM feature for fear of what might happen if I don't log in for a while.

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OK - that's it from me. Sorry if I gave anyone the wrong impression (I'm not that big of a dick or I'd have been out of business long ago).

Ron - last word? :p

Yeah Anthony my last word to you is you are rude condescending prick and I am glad you showed your true colors here....
I am glad you think you are so much better than me and for some reason you incorrectly assumed I am not just as busy as you are. I work a full time job, I am in the army Reserves which I do almost every weekend, currently enrolled in college working on my masters degree, have a large collection of reptiles, and have a family to tend to as well. And you know what Anthony? I have never not answered a question someone asked me whether on a forum, in a pm, or through email. But I never put you down for that. I tried to get you to drop it a long time ago. Nope, couldnt do it could you? YOUR ego got the best of you and now your ego has your foot in your mouth. Hope it was worth it Anthony.
And now Anthony, I will go hang out with my other dork buddies who actually give a shit about the people who enjoy this hobby as much we do..... :yes:

Anthony.. I don't know if you are aware of it or not, but you are NOT the only person here that does this for a living! Our livelyhood depends on Bruce and I selling animals. Neither of us has another job. Neither of us is a hobbyist. Full time and then some, this is what we do. That being said, YES, there are unanswered e-mails. Ones that simply state nothing but "Your ad on Kingsnake is overpriced. Drop it down 300 and I'll buy it right now." Nothing that states which animal, rude, and yeah, deleted. However almost all others are answered. BUT you can not say that nobody else here has been in your shoes. Bruce has been in them for over 30 years!!! I've been in them for quite a few myself. Something as silly as "What vet do you use" takes 2 seconds to answer.

Now, I'll admit to being a gabber. I enjoy talking to people. I help whenever I can. Not because "It's my job" but because it's something that makes you feel good as a person to be able to help. If I have learned something over the years of doing this that can help someone else succeed or help with an animal, why not help them out?

I tried on here a few times to write something that would hopefully get across to you that you were coming across rather harshly. I fully understand being protective of yourself and your business, trust me, I have been there. But then you figure out if they meant bad or not, and nobody here had meant anything bad about it. Now you're not only attacking Trevor, you are also attacking Ron for saying that he wouldn't buy from you because of the way you came across. If you go back to page one he started off as trying to defend you, and then asked you to calm down. You've been insulting and rude, and on a public forum where everyone can see that temper flaring out of control.

I personally have never met you, I do not believe. Don't care who you are. But the attitude here even after people have tried to calm it down and let it go has been enlightening.

Totally left something off.

Yes, I realize that forums are a great way to make sales. Unfortunately, I can't commit to being here enough that I would feel comfortable with anyone using that as a way to get in touch - unless it's something that can wait (like Trevor's "Welcome to the BLBC" message).

It didn't really dawn on me before that a lot of you probably log in here as part of your daily routine - just like I'm sure it didn't dawn on everyone else that I sometimes get so busy that I don't log in here for a couple months at a time. Again, it's all about perspective.

And I'm not trying to be a snob by using the "I'm a professional breeder" thing as an angle. I'm just saying that I have a very hectic job (could be a general contractor who builds a lot of houses - same difference) and this is not something I always have time to do.

If anything, shouldn't I get some points for being here strictly for the hobby aspect and NOT being here just so I can make a few sales? :dunno:

OK guys - that's it for sure this time. I'm really not a snob, I really do answer emails as long as I get them, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone (except for Ron). :p

It's all about exposure. If you didn't want people to know that you were on the boards you would have chosen a differnet screen name.

OK guys - that's it for sure this time. I'm really not a snob, I really do answer emails as long as I get them, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone (except for Ron). :p

I haven't read all the other lengthy crap posted recently, don't really have the time given I'm doing all this for fun and can't see it correctly but I will leave you with my experience without going into to much detail, I attempted to contact you via email on August 5th 2010 regarding something that you had inquired about and didn't get a response from you...I don't know maybe you didn't get it or my subject line didn't stand out enough with the hundreds of other emails you received that day but then again I was just following up on something that you inquired about so in the end I could give two shits if you wanted to participate or not...:yes:

Ah shit...thought I was done and then read Sarah's post.

Sarah,

Point taken - you're totally right, I lost my cool. :master:

I know my typed words can come across a bit cocky, but it's only because I'm direct - if were were talking in person, I'd argue the same points, but you would know by the tone of my voice that I'm not a cocky/arrogant person. Hopefully you can give me the benefit of the doubt until you get to know me a little better (I'm ornery and prefer directness over beating around the bush, but I'm not a rude/mean person at all).

I know I'm not the only one here who does this for a living - but I was talking directly to people who don't, and I was asking them to look at it from my perspective before passing judgement. Like I said in my last post, I wasn't trying to use the professional breeder thing as an angle or a way to say I know more about this than anyone else - it's just that I'm very busy and can't log in here every day.

Not to excuse me losing my cool, but here's a history of why this is such a big deal to me....and this is what I should've said many many posts ago.

Like I said above, I had some honest to goodness issues with email...caused by issues with a new email server that had to be relocated. That is fixed and has been for about a year. The ONLY point I was trying to make was that we shouldn't confuse last year's email issues (a very real and embarrassing problem) with me missing a private message on a forum. I'd never blow someone off on purpose, but I think someone should do more than send one PM before they say anything negative about you on a forum. That was the only point - and somehow I got too frustrated to convey that effectively.

I sincerely apologize to everyone, including Ron, that I didn't make my point more clearly and carefully. I NEVER meant to say it's OK to blow someone off and I got so worked up about getting my name smeared (just a little) that I didn't even think that I might want to clarify what I had said. I would never blow someone off on purpose (I usually even answer the stupid lowball offers that come in).

Hopefully you guys will all read this and my last post and realize that we're really not disagreeing on any of this. I just felt like my point was being ignored - didn't stop to think that it might have been because I went off half cocked and didn't make it very clearly. :o

Thanks,
Anthony

I can attest to the email problem. Anthony and I were discussing a deal on tangerine geckos last year after a mix-up on a supply delivery for me. My emails to him about a final deal were obviously lost. I tried several times over a week and got the delivery demon bounce back and finally just gave up. Not his fault. Another computer glitch.

I haven't read all the other lengthy crap posted recently, don't really have the time given I'm doing all this for fun and can't see it correctly but I will leave you with my experience without going into to much detail, I attempted to contact you via email on August 5th 2010 regarding something that you had inquired about and didn't get a response from you...I don't know maybe you didn't get it or my subject line didn't stand out enough with the hundreds of other emails you received that day but then again I was just following up on something that you inquired about so in the end I could give two shits if you wanted to participate or not...:yes:

If you're going to bring this up to try and embarrass me, then you should at least tell everyone what you're talking about!

I asked about donating something to the USARK auction and you sent me the info I asked for about the auction. I realized that I didn't have any baby ball pythons ready in time to ship (everything I have for sale now is still getting started) and I couldn't come up with anything else that I thought would be a good fit. Jaguar carpets or geckos are all I could have donated and I was right to think species other than ball pythons wouldn't fare so well here. That being the case, I decided to sell something myself later on and just donate proceeds to USARK. I really didn't mean any disrespect there...I have banners for both USARK and BLBC right on my home page of my online store.

But in the spirit of "telling it like it is on the BLBC", I will say this though...I didn't think you would stoop so low as to try calling me a chump because I inquired about donating something to the BLBC/USARK and then decided that the timing wasn't going to work. I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about fund raising, but I would imagine that would be considered unprofessional and generally tacky.

I can attest to the email problem. Anthony and I were discussing a deal on tangerine geckos last year after a mix-up on a supply delivery for me. My emails to him about a final deal were obviously lost. I tried several times over a week and got the delivery demon bounce back and finally just gave up. Not his fault. Another computer glitch.

Hi Kare,

I totally remember this...we talked about some extreme tangs - you wanted two if I remember correctly. I emailed you with a price, you agreed and then I sent you a link with the ordering page but you never ordered them. I still have the ordering page in my cart system, actually.

I figured something came up and I didn't want to pressure you if funds were tight. If you had emails bounce back, then I wouldn't have known. Really sorry about this!

-Anthony

Hi Kare,

I totally remember this...we talked about some extreme tangs - you wanted two if I remember correctly. I emailed you with a price, you agreed and then I sent you a link with the ordering page but you never ordered them. I still have the ordering page in my cart system, actually.

I figured something came up and I didn't want to pressure you if funds were tight. If you had emails bounce back, then I wouldn't have known. Really sorry about this!

-Anthony


Yeah - I had the price from you, but couldn't get it through. Its all okay. Took it as a sign to get more legless critters...:)

If you're going to bring this up to try and embarrass me, then you should at least tell everyone what you're talking about!

I asked about donating something to the USARK auction and you sent me the info I asked for about the auction. I realized that I didn't have any baby ball pythons ready in time to ship (everything I have for sale now is still getting started) and I couldn't come up with anything else that I thought would be a good fit. Jaguar carpets or geckos are all I could have donated and I was right to think species other than ball pythons wouldn't fare so well here. That being the case, I decided to sell something myself later on and just donate proceeds to USARK. I really didn't mean any disrespect there...I have banners for both USARK and BLBC right on my home page of my online store.

But in the spirit of "telling it like it is on the BLBC", I will say this though...I didn't think you would stoop so low as to try calling me a chump because I inquired about donating something to the BLBC/USARK and then decided that the timing wasn't going to work. I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about fund raising, but I would imagine that would be considered unprofessional and generally tacky.

But unprofessional and tacky are only things that can come from a hack hobbyist like me, you said it yourself...you were the one that brought it up, I left the particulars out...for all I knew you never saw my email since I didn't even get a I changed my mind email...I was only speaking of my one experience with you since you seemed to be able to pigeon hole me perfectly in your description of what it must be like to be me...lmfao

If I wanted to call you a chump I would just call you one, I was politely pointing out that you didn't respond to me if you did see it then you had to come back with this...you could have came back with I never saw it or I must have missed it sorry since I never bothered to send a follow up email.

But I should have just come right out and called you the prima donna that I believe you to be from reading this thread today and been done with it instead of trying to be nice...:cheers:

I haven't read all the other lengthy crap posted recently, don't really have the time given I'm doing all this for fun and can't see it correctly but I will leave you with my experience without going into to much detail, I attempted to contact you via email on August 5th 2010 regarding something that you had inquired about and didn't get a response from you...I don't know maybe you didn't get it or my subject line didn't stand out enough with the hundreds of other emails you received that day but then again I was just following up on something that you inquired about so in the end I could give two shits if you wanted to participate or not...:yes:

If you're going to bring this up to try and embarrass me, then you should at least tell everyone what you're talking about!

I asked about donating something to the USARK auction and you sent me the info I asked for about the auction. I realized that I didn't have any baby ball pythons ready in time to ship (everything I have for sale now is still getting started) and I couldn't come up with anything else that I thought would be a good fit. Jaguar carpets or geckos are all I could have donated and I was right to think species other than ball pythons wouldn't fare so well here. That being the case, I decided to sell something myself later on and just donate proceeds to USARK. I really didn't mean any disrespect there...I have banners for both USARK and BLBC right on my home page of my online store.

But in the spirit of "telling it like it is on the BLBC", I will say this though...I didn't think you would stoop so low as to try calling me a chump because I inquired about donating something to the BLBC/USARK and then decided that the timing wasn't going to work. I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about fund raising, but I would imagine that would be considered unprofessional and generally tacky.

Tony; are you learning impaired?
Jeff answered your inquiry.
You never answered him.
Then you come here and explain why you didn't donate to the auction.
To bad you didn't show him the courtesy of a reply.

Tony; are you learning impaired?
Jeff answered your inquiry.
You never answered him.
Then you come here and explain why you didn't donate to the auction.
To bad you didn't show him the courtesy of a reply.

Learning impaired? No. My IQ is in the 98th percentile, meaning there's about a 98% chance that I'm smarter than you (I don't know you - that's statistically speaking). Not being cocky, just saying since you asked.

Honestly, I didn't want to say no because I thought I might have been able to think of something. I put it off until I could look around the facility and then I completely forgot until the day before the auction. This has nothing to do with a lack of courtesy on my part.

The only lack of courtesy shown here is on Jeff's part. He might not care if he looks unprofessional, but he should have some respect for the fact that he's representing the USARK/BLBC Auction.

That's it, you guys have made it quite clear that there is a little clique here and I have bruised the ego of one of your members. I don't have time to argue until my post count is in the thousands, so I'll leave that to you enlightened folks.

I'm going to check for eggs and look in the incubator - maybe I'll find a clue while I'm at it. :master:

maybe I'll find a clue while I'm at it. :master:

I wish you luck. :cheers:

Wow, talk about hang yourself....

Sometimes people do honestly miss things - that's why Winston said he posted this thread! I wasn't blowing him off and never said such a thing, nor did I ever defend blowing him off. I answer all kinds of stupid shit throughout the course of a week, and I generally enjoy doing so.



Anthony!!!
I know you and you know me man!
Both have been dealing in the rhac (gecko) buisness for some time.You longer then me with rhacs!
But what does that statement mean???
Whatever Winston is contacting you about concerining Rhacs i can GARUNTEE isnt you average bullshit questions!

Just had to ask.I know Winston has but all the best intentions and is trying to get the best answers.

Really just decipher that and ill leave it as it is.

Anthony!!!
I know you and you know me man!
Both have been dealing in the rhac (gecko) buisness for some time.You longer then me with rhacs!
But what does that statement mean???
Whatever Winston is contacting you about concerining Rhacs i can GARUNTEE isnt you average bullshit questions!

Just had to ask.I know Winston has but all the best intentions and is trying to get the best answers.

Really just decipher that and ill leave it as it is.

Oh no, didn't mean it like that - what Winston and I are talking about is some rather serious shit! :yes:

When I said "I answer all kinds of stupid BS and generally enjoy it", I was referring to Sarah's post where she was talking about answering emails that aren't necessarily related to buying anything. Basically agreeing that breeders should answer husbandry questions and things like that, even if it's not about buying something....had nothing to do with Winston's PM at all.

Wow, talk about hang yourself....

You're f-king delusional, Scott. Your buddy calls me every name in the book, paraphrases what I said, another one jumps in to save him, then that one pulls the stunt about the BLBC Auction, and now here comes the third stooge to tell me I hung myself?

For whatever reason, I thought you were above this high school clique stupidity that goes on on forums...then I saw you have over 20,000 posts and realized you're just one of the girls. :eek:

But in the spirit of "telling it like it is on the BLBC", I will say this though...I didn't think you would stoop so low as to try calling me a chump because I inquired about donating something to the BLBC/USARK and then decided that the timing wasn't going to work. I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about fund raising, but I would imagine that would be considered unprofessional and generally tacky.

Okay since this apparently isn't going to die let's give you some more rope there cappy...in the spirit of the BLBC that I will point out you had no idea about until this thread I am assuming...delete the post that is rich...

The only reason this was even on my radar of shit to read was because you reported the post made by Ophiuchus

This was an innocent thread with a member wanting to talk to me about some new gecko projects from a thread I posted a couple days ago....had nothing to do with business, but some asshole chimes in saying how hard I was to get ahold of when they bought geckos from me a couple years ago. Can you please remove it before I snap? :-)

Delete the post...:lmao: but seriously this is the only reason I even bothered to click on it...

meaning there's about a 98% chance that I'm smarter than you .

Now if you came on here and said I am one of the 2% of men who experience Male PMS I would believe you but since you can't seem to stop lashing out at anyone who participates in this thread...

I will say that in my opinion I think you are just a bitter reptile business owner who apparently just has issues with customers and communication. I don't know maybe you are just bitter at those of us who are successful in our careers and families that have the ability to still do this for fun...:yes:


The only lack of courtesy shown here is on Jeff's part. He might not care if he looks unprofessional, but he should have some respect for the fact that he's representing the USARK/BLBC Auction.

Now it is just me, before that it was Ophiuchus, then Ron, then Trevor, then Sara, etc...

The only lack of courtesy, what??? Were you done in your attempts to dress down the other members here...so I tossed my name in the hat so you and I could go a few rounds and you can leave everyone else alone for a few short minutes since this thread isn't even 48 hours old...a man not blinded by rage would have seen that but you apparently feel that everything that anyone said is a personal attack so I'll play along as long as you leave the personal attacks on the other members out...I'm a grown man, I can handle your prima donna abuse for a few minutes.


You're f-king delusional, Scott. Your buddy calls me every name in the book, paraphrases what I said, another one jumps in to save him, then that one pulls the stunt about the BLBC Auction, and now here comes the third stooge to tell me I hung myself?

For whatever reason, I thought you were above this high school clique stupidity that goes on on forums...then I saw you have over 20,000 posts and realized you're just one of the girls. :eek:

Now it is a stunt, man you are the delusional one....you are the one who can't control your cool and lashing out not me...hell of a way to be, bitter and thinking the world is out to get you...

I'm sure a man like you within the top 2 percentile is much like myself so you don't sleep much, maybe just a few hours a night so I will expect a response sometime soon but I'm letting you know now don't get discouraged I will be back around later...I got to check in with my homies in my clique :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Who's ego do you think you bruised Anthony? :lmao: Again Anthony, get over yourself already. All this bullshit about you and I arent on the same level. Isnt that what you said before Anthony? I believe that was before you started bragging about being in the top 2% as far as IQ goes. My question is this; top 2% of what group? I certainly hope you arent saying the world because if you are, why the hell are you playing with lizards for a living?
Anthony, please stop patting yourself on the back before you break your arm. Not only is it sickening, its down right embarrassing to see a grown man act like you are.

As they say in the psych field there is a very thin line between a high IQ and insanity

Lord but this thread needs to die... But, I just want to say that I've never felt that Anthony attacked me personally. Just saying that, that's all.

Lord but this thread needs to die... But, I just want to say that I've never felt that Anthony attacked me personally. Just saying that, that's all.

Tried to get him to let it go on page 1..... his ego wouldnt let him do that. Now his ego is showing us his true colors. Glad it did. He is definitely high on the never do business with list for me.

You're f-king delusional, Scott. Your buddy calls me every name in the book, paraphrases what I said, another one jumps in to save him, then that one pulls the stunt about the BLBC Auction, and now here comes the third stooge to tell me I hung myself?

For whatever reason, I thought you were above this high school clique stupidity that goes on on forums...then I saw you have over 20,000 posts and realized you're just one of the girls. :eek:

Think what you wish. I'm glad you know me well enough to make these statements based on a post count. It's an observation - from where I sit, it looks like your just hanging yourself in this thread to me and apparently I'm not the only one that thinks this. :cheers:

I know theres been alot a name calling in this thread, don't want to get in the middle of everything. Just my 2 cents, my experiences with any have been good. He's answered my emails within 2 days and he has given good customer service to me over the years.:yes:

On a side note this is the most action on the crestie section I have ever seen!:lmao:

I know theres been alot a name calling in this thread, don't want to get in the middle of everything. Just my 2 cents, my experiences with any have been good. He's answered my emails within 2 days and he has given good customer service to me over the years.:yes:

On a side note this is the most action on the crestie section I have ever seen!:lmao:

I am sure it has been. But my problem isnt with his communication.... its with the way he acted in this thread. Never questioned his animals, his husbandry or any of that. I am questioning his ability to control his anger and handle a situation when it goes bad. He has to me in this thread he is someone I will avoid ever doing business with. Just my 2 cents.

It's an observation - from where I sit, it looks like your just hanging yourself in this thread to me and apparently I'm not the only one that thinks this. :cheers:

:yessir::cheers:

Lord but this thread needs to die... But, I just want to say that I've never felt that Anthony attacked me personally. Just saying that, that's all.

Hey Sara,

Hopefully you know why I got upset and that I was never upset with you. The difference is how you approached me. I'm not an unreasonable person and really don't have that much of an ego. You didn't sugar coat anything...just gave it to me straight and I admitted you were right (I lost my cool).

What made me lose my cool was Ron's open hypocrisy. He was cursing and calling names in one breath, and then he's telling me to calm down in the next....and then he heads over to the saloon to have a cursing dual with ophiocus in between posts. I would've had an easier time swallowing a one hour lecture on cultural sensitivity presented by Mel Gibson. :p

Anyways take care - and from the way things sound, you and I will probably meet sooner than later. :yes:

Anthony, you continually blame this thread on me when in reality, my first post in this thread was defending you. I believe you are the one that started with the cursing and throwing a tantrum.
Just for the record, Winston emailed me wanting to share pictures of "secret projects". Apparently that couldn't wait, so he started this thread.
And now I'm getting bashed for not returning that email promptly enough. This kind of bullshit is why I stay off of forums. Apparently this one is no longer safe either.
Apparently I missed it, but seriously....you're going to trash talk because I didn't answer a PM asking what local veterinarian I use?
Why don't you take a look at my website? My vet is listed right on the links page.
Here is me defending you and my FIRST post.
Got any proof? Not real kosher to come on here and trash the guy like this unless you have proof..... You sure do like to stir it up dont you?
You being a jackass again when people were trying to get you to calm down and let it go.
Don't be cranky? Look at what this thread turned into. Total bullshit (yeah - I'm officially pissed).
Here is me trying to get you to let it go.
Dude... chill.... it aint that big of a deal bro....

So Anthony, your bullshit theory of me starting this has been shot full of holes. My problem with you now is you still refuse to accept this thread happened because of YOUR ego and temper. You flew off the handle over something so stupid its unbelievable. People tried to calm you down and you lashed out at them, including Sara. I am done with you Anthony. You don’t get it and you don’t give a shit because you are so accustomed to people kissing your ass and when someone gets real with you, you lash out like a petulant child. I got news for you buddy, you might think you are a prima dona but around here you aint shit. That prima dona bullshit don’t work out too well in the BLBC. This will be my last post in this thread. I have wasted enough time on you and you aint worth it.

Just give it up Ron. You and your little buddies are the adult equivalent of those bratty teenagers who gang up and pick on other kids on the internet.

If it makes me arrogant for saying this, then so be it, but I'm better than that and I have no time for people like you or your brand of juvenile bullshit.

Just give it up Ron. You and your little buddies are the adult equivalent of those bratty teenagers who gang up and pick on other kids on the internet.

If it makes me arrogant for saying this, then so be it, but I'm better than that and I have no time for people like you or your brand of juvenile bullshit.

Cant handle the truth can you Anthony?

Cant handle the truth can you Anthony?

The truth is right here and I really encourage everyone to read the whole thread if they're going to form an opinion of anyone.

You talk to people with the tact of a belligerent drunk and then expect them to take your advice on how to behave. I don't care who you are or who you're friends with, you can go sell that koolaid to someone else.

The truth is right here and I really encourage everyone to read the whole thread if they're going to form an opinion of anyone.

You talk to people with the tact of a belligerent drunk and then expect them to take your advice on how to behave. I don't care who you are or who you're friends with, you can go sell that koolaid to someone else.

People will and are Anthony. Too bad you cant see it staring you in the face. Good luck in your future endeavors.

People will and are Anthony. Too bad you cant see it staring you in the face. Good luck in your future endeavors.

What's staring me in the face is this image in my mind of a grown man who honest-to-god has organized cursing matches with random people on the internet. :rolleyes:

OK Ron - I love playing with you, but I really have to go now. You go ahead and take the last shot so you can say you won the pissing contest. I'll at least give you that.

I'm going back to real life, so I probably won't see it....but if it makes you feel better about yourself, just imagine that whatever you say next REALLY hurt my feelings. :yes:

What made me lose my cool was Ron's open hypocrisy. He was cursing and calling names in one breath, and then he's telling me to calm down in the next....and then he heads over to the saloon to have a cursing dual with ophiocus in between posts. I would've had an easier time swallowing a one hour lecture on cultural sensitivity presented by Mel Gibson. :p



Seems to me what made you lose your cool was this post below on page one - :dunno:

Good luck on trying to get a hold of him, there is multiple threads about AC never answering emails or phone calls. I purchased some crested gecko's from him a few years ago but it was real hard for him to keep communication when I was making the purchase. Never the less I did receive my order.

You reported it and wanted that post deleted because you didn't like it and as you put it.... you wanted it removed before you snapped. Trevor (2kdime) posted a similar experience - you accused him of trash talking you. I think you just flew off the handle at these people....

Neither of these two guys said anything bad about you or your business - just that they either couldn't get a hold of you or had a hard time of it.... you explained later about email server issues, okay, not that big a deal, the pm problem is easily fixed because it seems that this occurs when people try to contact you through a forum... easy fixes are turn off the pm system or click on that box which will result in the forum sending an email to your email address if someone should send you a pm.... that's a real easy fix and you don't miss anyone contacting you for whatever reason. :cheers:

The truth is right here and I really encourage everyone to read the whole thread if they're going to form an opinion of anyone.

You talk to people with the tact of a belligerent drunk and then expect them to take your advice on how to behave. I don't care who you are or who you're friends with, you can go sell that koolaid to someone else.

Anthony, I have read the entire thread been keeping tabs on it since it started. Honest opinion --- I would never deal with someone like you. Has nothing to do with what others have posted...just your posts.

Sorry but it is my honest opinion.

The truth is right here and I really encourage everyone to read the whole thread if they're going to form an opinion of anyone.

You talk to people with the tact of a belligerent drunk and then expect them to take your advice on how to behave. I don't care who you are or who you're friends with, you can go sell that koolaid to someone else.

Anthony, I have been reading this entire thread, and honestly, I don't post much or know many of the people here. But the way you have handled this from the beginning would leave me to feel that any business delings with you would not be good. This has nothing to do with what others have said, this comes from your posts only.

WoW. Jump one of the first guys to defend you, then a meltdown of epic proportions.

1) I'm smarter that most everyone (if you were, you would know it is never, NEVER beneficial to say this out loud, even if it's true.)
2) I'm too big to have time to deal with the little people
3) I'm taking my ball and going home
4) You guys are ganging up on me

You owe Ron an apology.

Hey guys,

Oh my God - now I see "it".:eek:

I had no idea I was asking for special treatment by asking for the thread to be removed. I thought you were all nuts for thinking I was nuts! I assumed that talking negatively about businesses or individuals was never allowed in the open - that's what I thought the saloon was for here. It wasn't until last night that I actually realized it's allowed throughout the website. Now that I know that posts like that are not against the rules, I feel horrible for asking.

At first I was like "Why would so and so call me a prima donna?" I dismissed it as crazy talk, so I was mortified when I realized that it totally looked like I wasexpecting special treatment and had a fit because I didn't get it.

This is embarrassing to admit because it shouldn't have mattered, but I also had no idea at first that Ron was a moderator - I thought division commander was for the 20,000 posts. I think I realized it about the time two other "division commanders" showed up. :o

I always thought Larry and BT (generals) were the mods. In fact, that's why I sent that "colorful" message asking them to just remove the thread. Larry and BT both know me and that I'm pretty easy going, so that's why I used the language I did (note that I typed "before I snap" with the smiley face after it - didn't really plan to get so upset!). I was honestly still in a good mood when I sent that. lol

Anyways, by the time it dawned on me that Ron was a moderator, I already had him riled up and he had started calling names. Remember - at that point I had no idea that I looked like a prima donna who was asking for special treatment. I just thought Ron got his ego bruised because he was a moderator...didn't realize I looked like a whiner who was asking for special treatment.

And really, it shouldn't matter - I should have taken Ron's advice as a friend, moderator or not. He's always been cool to me when I post pictures and such.

In any case, I just want to apologize to everyone who got involved in this, especially Ron - I was going really hard on you and hopefully you can see that it was literally a misunderstanding.

With the exception of Jeff Chandler (auction thing is still inexcusable in my opinion), I don't hold anything against any of the other moderators or members and I'd like to sit down and have a beer with you if we ever meet at a show. :cheers:

Thanks,
Anthony

Just to break it down for you Anthony because I still don't believe that you get it...I don't care if you like me doesn't effect me one way or another but I would like to just point out our give an take here in this thread where you believe I was wrong...

My first quote is of me responding to you about the pm's.

This is all part of online communication, just the same as emails contact with potential customers. You have the ability to turn off your private messages in the options feature in the user CP, but that aside how did you know it was something stupid if you didn't check it for months?

I left your intentional breaks in your communication in place so you can see the entire area that was addressed to me...you can click on the quote to be taken to the direct quote so you can see the items I left out and you can see that I didn't mistake this part of it as what you intended to be directed at me.

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Jeff Chandler

You're entitled to your opinion, but you (and Ron and Scott) all need to realize that you're only seeing this through your own eyes.

I've been right there in your shoes as a hobbyist (it's fun!), but you guys have never been in mine. I answer 50-100 reptile emails per day and still have to run a breeding facility stocked with 5,000 animals....which requires dealing with a number of people, who all have their own quirks, issues and baggage. As easy as that sounds (yeah right), this is a tough business to figure out (there's no books or schools to learn from) and there's not always money around to pay more help when you're in the dreaded start-up phase.

Anyways, I fully disagree that answering PM's here should be part of my job...that's completely unreasonable. Again, I do not go to forums all that often - this is literally the only one I post on. Sometimes I don't even log in here for a month or two at a time.

Now I did turn off my PM's after this fiasco, but I think it's pretty damn ridiculous that I'm no longer able to use the PM feature for fear of what might happen if I don't log in for a while.

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Please take note of how you said you answer 50-100 emails every day, my response was a vague response to you since all of what you wrote was intended for me since you divided it into sections.

I haven't read all the other lengthy crap posted recently, don't really have the time given I'm doing all this for fun and can't see it correctly but I will leave you with my experience without going into to much detail, I attempted to contact you via email on August 5th 2010 regarding something that you had inquired about and didn't get a response from you...I don't know maybe you didn't get it or my subject line didn't stand out enough with the hundreds of other emails you received that day but then again I was just following up on something that you inquired about so in the end I could give two shits if you wanted to participate or not...:yes:

Now if you are following the flow of conversation at this point you can see where I left it vague so that no conclusion was drawn to what our conversation was to be about but just enough so that it might ring a bell in your head into what it was about and I even included the date incase you did accidentally miss it to which you could have responded any number of ways...this personally wasn't the response I was expecting but I was also just pointing out an experience I had with you in response to your statement directed at me...granted shittier than it needed to be but then again what is the fun since you were taking pot shots at the rest of the board at that point and I was trying to direct your intention to me after all.

If you're going to bring this up to try and embarrass me, then you should at least tell everyone what you're talking about!

I asked about donating something to the USARK auction and you sent me the info I asked for about the auction. I realized that I didn't have any baby ball pythons ready in time to ship (everything I have for sale now is still getting started) and I couldn't come up with anything else that I thought would be a good fit. Jaguar carpets or geckos are all I could have donated and I was right to think species other than ball pythons wouldn't fare so well here. That being the case, I decided to sell something myself later on and just donate proceeds to USARK. I really didn't mean any disrespect there...I have banners for both USARK and BLBC right on my home page of my online store.

But in the spirit of "telling it like it is on the BLBC", I will say this though...I didn't think you would stoop so low as to try calling me a chump because I inquired about donating something to the BLBC/USARK and then decided that the timing wasn't going to work. I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about fund raising, but I would imagine that would be considered unprofessional and generally tacky.

You drew that conclusion and you took it that way not me, you had more than one option to go with and that was the response YOU took, not me.

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With the exception of Jeff Chandler (auction thing is still inexcusable in my opinion), I don't hold anything against any of the other moderators or members and I'd like to sit down and have a beer with you if we ever meet at a show. :cheers:

Thanks,
Anthony

That last paragraph is the reason I went through the trouble to point out our conversation within this thread. This thread will follow you forever since it is your name in the title and as of right now number 4 in a google search.

I'll be the bigger man and just say that I will forgive you for jumping the gun and coming at me with such misguided anger and I wish you nothing but the best despite our little runaround here, good luck in all your future endeavors :cheers:

Jeff,

I really don't have time for this. I apologized (sincerely) to everyone I offended, including you. If you can't man up and do the same, then that's fine...I certainly didn't expect it. Just don't claim you're being the bigger man while simultaneously justifying your actions and trying to rub my nose in whatever it is you think is going to get under my skin.

That being said - If you do want to apologize sincerely, then it will be all good and we will sit down and laugh about this over a beer whenever we meet. I don't hold grudges and I don't expect my friends to be perfect.

And knock it off with the BS about this thread following me - the fact of the matter is, sales are fine and that google thing will be gone sooner than later. And if it's not, I don't care - people don't buy animals from me because they like me (except for the occasional girl who just wants my phone number. lol)

Honestly - I made more money this week (after this thread started) than I used to make in three months working for Gateway computers. It was a good week (second best ever). While you were sitting there trying to figure out what you could say to irritate me, I was shopping for snakes. :yes:

Jeff,

I really don't have time for this. I apologized (sincerely) to everyone I offended, including you. If you can't man up and do the same, then that's fine...I certainly didn't expect it. Just don't claim you're being the bigger man while simultaneously justifying your actions and trying to rub my nose in whatever it is you think is going to get under my skin.

That being said - If you do want to apologize sincerely, then it will be all good and we will sit down and laugh about this over a beer whenever we meet. I don't hold grudges and I don't expect my friends to be perfect.

And knock it off with the BS about this thread following me - the fact of the matter is, sales are fine and that google thing will be gone sooner than later. And if it's not, I don't care - people don't buy animals from me because they like me (except for the occasional girl who just wants my phone number. lol)

Honestly - I made more money this week (after this thread started) than I used to make in three months working for Gateway computers. It was a good week (second best ever). While you were sitting there trying to figure out what you could say to irritate me, I was shopping for snakes. :yes:

Sorry Anthony, but no you didnt. You took another dig at him:


With the exception of Jeff Chandler (auction thing is still inexcusable in my opinion), I don't hold anything against any of the other moderators or members and I'd like to sit down and have a beer with you if we ever meet at a show. :cheers:

Thanks,
Anthony

That was pretty low if you ask me..... especially since YOU are the one that brought the auction up, not Jeff.

AC,

Dude......I have no dog in this fight, but claiming to have a 98% percent chance at being smarter then the next person and then stating how much money you made this week, are probably not the best ways to respond to this thread. My advice would be to just apologize to all involved and put this in the past. Even if you weren't wrong in some instances, apologize anyways. It's a tough thing to do - but it goes a long way. This thread is way too old and long for something so simple.

AC,

Dude......I have no dog in this fight, but claiming to have a 98% percent chance at being smarter then the next person and then stating how much money you made this week, are probably not the best ways to respond to this thread. My advice would be to just apologize to all involved and put this in the past. Even if you weren't wrong in some instances, apologize anyways. It's a tough thing to do - but it goes a long way. This thread is way too old and long for something so simple.

1. The guy asked if I was "learning impaired"...basically asked if I was stupid, so I gave him a smart-ass answer - I don't know why everyone tries to make that out to be so terrible.

2. Jeff and a couple other people are going on and on and on about how this thread is going to follow me and cost me sales....that's why I said I had a great week last week.

3. Why don't you go read some of the names the moderators have been calling people in this thread, and then come tell me I'm being out of line?

My advice, unless you have read this whole thread, shut up and stay out of it.

Ron,

Just because I apologized for my part in this, it doesn't excuse Jeff's behavior or your own. The only one of you three who kept a cool head was Scott (kudos to him for that).

And let's get something straight - I offered my apology because I knew where I was wrong, not because I think you're right or because I give a shit what you think of me.

Truth is, I still think you're an "internet tough guy" and I feel sorry for you because I'd bet the farm that it's all an act and that you'd NEVER talk to people in real life the same way you do on this forum.

Anthony


That was pretty low if you ask me..... especially since YOU are the one that brought the auction up, not Jeff.

I didn't keep dodging this argument because I don't have an answer...I dodged it because I thought it was weak enough that I didn't need to. Since you boys want to keep using this as a defense (pathetic), here you go.


1. Jeff used the word "Participate".

2. He talked about how he was responding to my inquiry.

3. Everyone here knows Jeff does the auction.

4. The auction was just a few weeks ago.

Add it up folks, Jeff knew what he was saying. In fact, in his last post, his words were "I admit it was shittier than it needed to be" and he even admitted that he did it to draw attention away from Ron and company. He knew what he was doing and knew it was wrong.

JonF,

Sorry bro - I wasn't trying to be dismissive with the "shut up" thing. I type like I talk and that's what usually gets me in trouble...had I said that to you over the phone or in person, you'd know by the tone of my voice that I didn't mean anything disrespectful by it. I actually moved up really fast at Gateway (promoted from entry level support to the company's top support position in just under one year) because I had a way of telling people what they don't want to hear without making them upset (they usually loved me). Unfortunately my "gift" doesn't translate to written words very well. lol

As far as how I deal with these guys, I know it's not ideal, but sometimes you have to fight fire with fire (or in this case, fight ego with ego).

-Anthony

Truth is, I still think you're an "internet tough guy" and I feel sorry for you because I'd bet the farm that it's all an act and that you'd NEVER talk to people in real life the same way you do on this forum.

Anthony



You would lose your farm then..... I am no different in person than I am on here.
Like you, I give two rat farts in the wind what you think of me. I wont change because you got bent out of shape over a trivial inquiry and had a melt down on a public forum and then demanded the post be deleted. That was all your doing... tough guy. So to put this stupid ass thread to rest for me, I will close by saying I still think you are an arrogant self centered prima dona and you cant see past your own over inflated ego to give a sincere apology to people you owe it to without taking more jabs at them.
In order to keep you from embarrassing yourself even more in this thread, I am putting you on ignore so I wont be tempted to respond. Have a nice life Anthony.

I haven't read all the other lengthy crap posted recently, don't really have the time given I'm doing all this for fun and can't see it correctly but I will leave you with my experience without going into to much detail, I attempted to contact you via email on August 5th 2010 regarding something that you had inquired about and didn't get a response from you...I don't know maybe you didn't get it or my subject line didn't stand out enough with the hundreds of other emails you received that day but then again I was just following up on something that you inquired about so in the end I could give two shits if you wanted to participate or not...:yes:

granted shittier than it needed to be but then again what is the fun since you were taking pot shots at the rest of the board at that point and I was trying to direct your intention to me after all.


I didn't keep dodging this argument because I don't have an answer...I dodged it because I thought it was weak enough that I didn't need to. Since you boys want to keep using this as a defense (pathetic), here you go.


1. Jeff used the word "Participate".

2. He talked about how he was responding to my inquiry.

3. Everyone here knows Jeff does the auction.

4. The auction was just a few weeks ago.

Add it up folks, Jeff knew what he was saying. In fact, in his last post, his words were "I admit it was shittier than it needed to be" and he even admitted that he did it to draw attention away from Ron and company. He knew what he was doing and knew it was wrong.

Let's try this again, what I said being shitty was the part I made bold in my statement to you regarding my one and only attempt at online correspondence with you since you told ME that you answer 50-100 emails. The fact I was participating in the thread is enough to draw your fire, not like anyone has to go out of there way to get under your skin...

We also launched the newsletter (days after the auction ended) and do some other things around here that it could have been pertaining to, other people know that. For all anyone knew we could have been trying to contact you for any number or reasons you were the one that made that leap.

Look you need someone to blame other than yourself then blame me, you don't want to like me then don't...none of that bothers me but don't take what I typed out of context.

JonF,

Sorry bro - I wasn't trying to be dismissive with the "shut up" thing. I type like I talk and that's what usually gets me in trouble...had I said that to you over the phone or in person, you'd know by the tone of my voice that I didn't mean anything disrespectful by it. I actually moved up really fast at Gateway (promoted from entry level support to the company's top support position in just under one year) because I had a way of telling people what they don't want to hear without making them upset (they usually loved me). Unfortunately my "gift" doesn't translate to written words very well. lol

As far as how I deal with these guys, I know it's not ideal, but sometimes you have to fight fire with fire (or in this case, fight ego with ego).

-Anthony

That might be your problem:lmao:

That might be your problem:lmao:

I think he has more problems than how he types.
How you treat people says alot about a person.
Arrogant, dismissive of others view points.
In my opinion, doesn't care what anyone else thinks.

Man, I don't believe this thread is still going on.

Anthony, it may be best to just let this thread die. Every time you come here and put some new spin, excuse, or explanation on what happened and why, it's just making you look worse. From what I read, it looks like you had a little bit of a blow-up, and lost your cool. Just apologize (sincerely without caveats) and walk away.....let it pass, man.

I just became a new member and all I can say is "WOW" i'll thing I'll move on to the next forum site

So, you just happened to use your first post as a new member to dig up a year old thread?

Give me a break!

I just became a new member and all I can say is "WOW" i'll thing I'll move on to the next forum site

Dont let the door hit you where the dog should have bit ya! :yes:

I just became a new member and all I can say is "WOW" i'll thing I'll move on to the next forum site

Have fun!

Dont let the door hit you where the dog should have bit ya! :yes:

Word:rebel:

Christ...this one is still alive. I'm not sure why this guy had to re-open this thread, but nobody needs to get offended or make comments on my behalf....me, Jeff and Ron are all big boys, we have all made up and I think we all agreed we could've handled things differently.

For the record, BLBC is the *only* forum I post on. :yessir:

I'd rather get chewed out every once in a blue moon, than stroke egos with a bunch of jealous phonies who kiss my butt on the forums and then talk bad about me or my business behind my back. At least here you know exactly where you stand, and that's gotta count for something.

Hahaha, I was scrolling down the page and saw this one and right away was like "Who the hell brought that back up???" Then saw it was you! :)

And, nicely said!

Hahaha, I was scrolling down the page and saw this one and right away was like "Who the hell brought that back up???" Then saw it was you! :)

And, nicely said!

Yeah, that Caponetto guy is causing some trouble... :lmao:

No wait, it's Sara's fault, you posted after him.... :lmao:

Yeah, that Caponetto guy is causing some trouble... :lmao:

No wait, it's Sara's fault, you posted after him.... :lmao:

It's always my fault, I guess I'll just give in and admit it...:p

It's always my fault, I guess I'll just give in and admit it...:p

It's easier to swim with the flow.... :cheers:

It's easier to swim with the flow.... :cheers:

Yup! Like the pisces I am!:yes::cool: