Are these guys f'n nuts? I don't like WCs in the first place...but placing fancy names on them and HUGE price tags.... I've never heard of a red paradigm...

Just thought i'd post this "gem" for you guys...

http://www.rarepythons.com/zenny/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=187

These guys are apparently a banner sponsor at Fauna...

Wow... nice imported normal female for $1,800... love the photochop jobs...

pretty normal. That's messed up. $1800.

These guys are the biggest joke. They had a "desert ghost" for 5000 and a "desert ghost yellowbelly" for 6500. Both looked 100% normal.

If I were them and sold this animal I would strongly look into some photoshop classes. Those are some of the worse cuts of an image I've seen in a long time.

Hah! I had heard these guys were showing back up again. I can't believe they actually have the guts to buy banner space on fauna after that last thread about them on the BOI. Let's buy 200 gravid females, claim we produce 1500 balls a year, and then ask for help on how to get them all set up!

I can decide what I like better. The red paradigm or the green mojave.

:rolleyes:

I can decide what I like better. The red paradigm or the green mojave.

:rolleyes:

I know what you mean.. they are all so stunning! :devil:
Hell, my son has a $6500 morph in his room! And here I was thinking it was just a normal ball python!!!! It must be one of those high fangled morphs because she looks just like some of those on Chris' website!!!! :lol:

Who I really pity is the person that buys her........

Who I really pity is the person that buys her........

Me too Jenea...There will be some poor sap out there that grabs it and thinks they got something...No shame these :ahole:'s have...

I know what you mean.. they are all so stunning! :devil:
Hell, my son has a $6500 morph in his room! And here I was thinking it was just a normal ball python!!!! It must be one of those high fangled morphs because she looks just like some of those on Chris' website!!!! :lol:

Little did you know you were sitting on a gold mine.

:machinegun::machinegun::machinegun:

More and more scammers......wish we could ..........nevermind, that could get me into alot of trouble.....

More and more scammers......wish we could ..........nevermind, that could get me into alot of trouble.....

LOL, not if we help :D

That's just not right. Seriously not right. Meh.

Hmm............


Juvenile POSSIBLE Het Pied Female
$400.00
This juvenile is a possible het pied female. She has the 'possible' het pied markers. As a matter of practice we will NOT EVER sell animals listed as 'TRUE' hets, as we never want to have our reputation questioned over such an issue. As such all of our hets are ONLY listed as possible. She is eating well on small mice and should gain weight quickly.

Hmm............


Juvenile POSSIBLE Het Pied Female
$400.00
This juvenile is a possible het pied female. She has the 'possible' het pied markers. As a matter of practice we will NOT EVER sell animals listed as 'TRUE' hets, as we never want to have our reputation questioned over such an issue. As such all of our hets are ONLY listed as possible. She is eating well on small mice and should gain weight quickly.

This guy is a real piece of work. He is sorting thru all of his wc gravid females and ch babies and labeling them as morphs. He has already admitted to selling at the White Plains shows, so could've already screwed people.

Hmm............


Juvenile POSSIBLE Het Pied Female
$400.00
This juvenile is a possible het pied female. She has the 'possible' het pied markers. As a matter of practice we will NOT EVER sell animals listed as 'TRUE' hets, as we never want to have our reputation questioned over such an issue. As such all of our hets are ONLY listed as possible. She is eating well on small mice and should gain weight quickly.

So what this statement means is he will sell you a CH normal for $400. What an :ahole:

So what this statement means is he will sell you a CH normal for $400. What an :ahole:

Yes Sir, sell them as PH's that way when that normal shipped from Africa breeds and doesn't prove.... he is admonishing himself of any guilt.... out right scam!

This. is what you would call a REAL scumbag. Clear Misrepresentation.

Their little "het" disclaimer raises more questions then it does any good..........

what that really should say is that "Every normal we import is a possible het.....for something!" A person wouldn't have their integrity or reputation questioned over real "hets" if they were really produced by that person.

F'n scammers.....

A person wouldn't have their integrity or reputation questioned over real "hets" if they were really produced by that person.


Right on the money! :yessir:

So does anybody know if this guy actually sells these snakes at that price? If so...the buyers need some more education.

Yeah I ran across that site the other day. A few things to me that really stood out is how you can't blow up the pictures to ANYTHING where you could actually see what that $1800-6500 NORMAL really looks like. #2 is how they're charging so much for what they say themselves are CAPTIVE HATCHED babies and "juvies"

There are 2 pretty lengthy threads on the guy on Fauna, he got caught lying the first time, laid low for a while and did it again, all that to make a quick buck according to his own words.

Seems like he does not give up easily.:rolleyes:

There are 2 pretty lengthy threads on the guy on Fauna, he got caught lying the first time, laid low for a while and did it again, all that to make a quick buck according to his own words.

Seems like he does not give up easily.:rolleyes:

Seems like he's not very bright either.....

So.......does this mean none of you want a gift certificate from them for Christmas?

So.......does this mean none of you want a gift certificate from them for Christmas?

I'd prefer stocks in Enron....oh wait...:lol:

Preying on the newbies, sorry :machinegun:

So.......does this mean none of you want a gift certificate from them for Christmas?

Awesome, it would be like Christmas in Nigeria! :wamma:

This is when I wish I knew a good hacker......

I HATE idjits like this. They give all of us a bad name. Let me know when we can gather with pitchforks and farm implements to pay this dude a visit.


~Kat

Are these guys f'n nuts? I don't like WCs in the first place...but placing fancy names on them and HUGE price tags.... I've never heard of a red paradigm...

Just thought i'd post this "gem" for you guys...

http://www.rarepythons.com/zenny/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=187

These guys are apparently a banner sponsor at Fauna...

Nice job Watchdog! A perfect example of what we are trying to accomplish with this section..

:yessir:

I wasted a few minutes reading thru the BOI thread about this guy and couldn't believe my eyes...Am I the only one that found it ironic that JnJ has a sack big enough chimed in with -

"Found the pic on his site.

Crap, we have all been selling these special red paridigm balls as normals....
__________________
J&J REPTILES
sales@jnjreptiles.com
(207) 479-6658
www.jnjreptiles.com"

I wasted a few minutes reading thru the BOI thread about this guy and couldn't believe my eyes...Am I the only one that found it ironic that JnJ has a sack big enough chimed in with -

"Found the pic on his site.

Crap, we have all been selling these special red paridigm balls as normals....
__________________
J&J REPTILES
sales@jnjreptiles.com
(207) 479-6658
www.jnjreptiles.com"

Kind of ironic aint it? Coming from the infamous Mr. "I buy captive hatched/wild caught animals and sell them as morphs" himself.....:machinegun:

Kind of ironic aint it? Coming from the infamous Mr. "I buy captive hatched/wild caught animals and sell them as morphs" himself.....:machinegun:

Yep - Pretty much the words right out of my mouth...

Kind of ironic aint it? Coming from the infamous Mr. "I buy captive hatched/wild caught animals and sell them as morphs" himself.....:machinegun:

Yeah, he shut up pretty quick when I said that to him. :lol:

I will say I bought WC gravids myself the last two years dreaming of getting a new morph. But in the long run I had females that were beat up. Eggs that were laid that looked like crap. The ones that did hatch were normals well in my book. I still have every animal I hatched from them last year.

The females are not in good shap at all. If I took a WC that just laid compared to one of my CB females that just laid it is night and day. Then getting them to eat is a battle. Dewormed and what not.

I was contacted by the guy I bouht my six of last year. Asked how many I wanted. I said none. He asked about anyone I knew. I told him I would rather help them breed CB snakes and get CBB.

I was caught up in the NEW MORPH thing. Guess what. it is not worth it IMO. and then you have people that slap a morph name on anything. Trying to get the new guy to buy.

Sad really. Atleast he admitted that they were not proven traits. but still.........

I will say I bought WC gravids myself the last two years dreaming of getting a new morph. But in the long run I had females that were beat up. Eggs that were laid that looked like crap. The ones that did hatch were normals well in my book. I still have every animal I hatched from them last year.

The females are not in good shap at all. If I took a WC that just laid compared to one of my CB females that just laid it is night and day. Then getting them to eat is a battle. Dewormed and what not.

I was contacted by the guy I bouht my six of last year. Asked how many I wanted. I said none. He asked about anyone I knew. I told him I would rather help them breed CB snakes and get CBB.

I was caught up in the NEW MORPH thing. Guess what. it is not worth it IMO. and then you have people that slap a morph name on anything. Trying to get the new guy to buy.

Sad really. Atleast he admitted that they were not proven traits. but still.........

Well Gary - I'm glad to hear you've seen the light with the importation of WC gravid females...

Yeah, he shut up pretty quick when I said that to him. :lol:

I didn't read the whole thread - I must have missed that...Gotta go see for myself now...:yourock:

I didn't read the whole thread - I must have missed that...Gotta go see for myself now...:yourock:

Post #51 :devil:

Well Gary - I'm glad to hear you've seen the light with the importation of WC gravid females...

Yeah Brother, I have no clue what I was thinkin at the time. But I know for a fact that a lot of females die. Not becuase they do not eat. But becuase people do not try to get them eating and clean. They just do not care enough. they want the eggs. The eggs only.

I got props from JnJ for outing Rarepythons in their classified ad :rolleyes:

I also sent a little warning notice to Judy over at BP.net when he showed up there and she quickly removed him. :yessir:

As it stands I will likely be picking up another WC female again this season -- unless someone has an early clutch of eggs that they want to donate for incubation in my sons classroom. I definitely won't be buying from Billingsley again this season tho - there's another rip off artist for you.

I also sent a little warning notice to Judy over at BP.net when he showed up there and she quickly removed him. :yessir:


JnJ pulls the same crap with their ads...So tell me why BP.net would remove RarePythons but let JnJ buy a banner ad? Makes a whole lot of sense to me...

JnJ pulls the same crap with their ads...So tell me why BP.net would remove RarePythons but let JnJ buy a banner ad? Make a whole lot sense to me...


My only assumption would be that JnJ has a good customer history as well he has ties within the industry. I'm guessing since they peddle for Ian that they are also friendly with Adam (same circle of friends?) and Adam is a big time supporter of BP.net. Just a round about assumption.

My only assumption would be that JnJ has a good customer history as well he has ties within the industry. I'm guessing since they peddle for Ian that they are also friendly with Adam (same circle of friends?) and Adam is a big time supporter of BP.net. Just a round about assumption.

Adam is friends with Ian... but he's not part of the issue of BPnet putting up JnJ ads, and I'm sure he'd appreciate if you kept his name out of this...

Why doesn't someone ask Judy whats up?

My only assumption would be that JnJ has a good customer history as well he has ties within the industry. I'm guessing since they peddle for Ian that they are also friendly with Adam (same circle of friends?) and Adam is a big time supporter of BP.net. Just a round about assumption.

Tosha, Your assumption is way off Trust me!



Why doesn't someone ask Judy whats up?

Because she doesnt know her ass from a hole in the ground.......

Tosha, Your assumption is way off Trust me!

OK I'll trust you -- as I said it was just an assumption -- maybe nobody has pointed it out to her? I dunno :cheers:

Since when is 475 Grams adult for a Spider? That's barely breeding size...

I love the PROVEN FIRE female at $1050!!! SURRRRRRE.:lol:

I love the PROVEN FIRE female at $1050!!! SURRRRRRE.:lol:

What a joke this moron is.... total SCAM at every turn!

Here is one of his WC gravid female ads from fauna....

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll249/norsmis/rare1.jpg

A couple of quotes from his fauna ad.

To answer a group of inquiries about this thread, gravids should be in and ready for sale just before Christmas. We may also have some gravid morphs as well (pastels & YB's).

$75-$99 each depending on the quantity ordered.

*Very Limited Quantity* Morphs (pastels & YB's) will be more of course ($400-$900 each).

:shootout:

Here is one of his WC gravid female ads from fauna....



You beat me to it. :lol::yourock:

You beat me to it. :lol::yourock:

I wanted it here as a screen shot in case this lying scumbag tries to say it didnt happen.... Thanks Bill!!!!! :yourock:

Holy S#$^, This is the grow closet guy again?? Jeez, I just put it together with the whole 'microbiology' mention. I'm in favor of bringing back tarring and feathering. What a Feckin Idjit.

~Kat

Adam is friends with Ian... but he's not part of the issue of BPnet putting up JnJ ads, and I'm sure he'd appreciate if you kept his name out of this...

Why doesn't someone ask Judy whats up?

Go ahead Jason and ask - She's your girl...:cheers:

Tosha, Your assumption is way off Trust me!



Because she doesnt know her ass from a hole in the ground.......

Enlighten us Jashole...

Guess his plan on making a mint by bringing 100s of gravids and hatching out all those morphs didn't pan out. I had hoped he would've lost enough of his ass on that venture to put him out of biz.

No 1
That sucks Donkey D!ck! Misrepresenting scum bag!

But No 2
Please tell me why anybody (especially bush leaguers) are still buying WC balls in this day and age? Shit, we had a thread the other day about people killing off their normal stock, and them some ****ers still buy wc imports…. I thought the entire point about this site was to breed you own dam stuff? WTF is this shit. USA prob has more balls then the entre African continent… Big guys like Kevin from NERD and the ponytailed mr Barcheck himself, Tracy from VPI etc have all admitted ON RR that there is NO need to bring WC in anymore, so why in the Hell are people able to admit on this site that they do and nobody calls them a dirty name?
I am not talking about guys with 5/6 year old WC balls in their collection that they got years ago, but the guys and gals who are waiting on new WC imports right now need to shut their trap IMO. You are WORSE than this asshole/JnJ because you are acting all high and righteous when you are basically doing something similar in principal (is the idea of bringing in a graved wc not just to play the lotto for a morph, skipping all the work of normal breeding).
This is BS, you are either for against this shit, there can be no fence sitting BS!
THE B

This is BS, you are either for against this shit, there can be no fence sitting BS!
THE B

Amen to that...:yessir:

wow i am really surprised at everyone here! NO ONE has even mentioned this guys other site that is link at the bottom of his page.

Ships live mice that must be costly
http://www.micebymail.com/

wow i am really surprised at everyone here! NO ONE has even mentioned this guys other site that is link at the bottom of his page.

Ships live mice that must be costly
http://www.micebymail.com/

:machinegun::machinegun:

Go ahead Jason and ask - She's your girl...:cheers:

Bastage... It don't surprise me that JnJ is allowed a banner ad there... other than that..."No comment." :lol:

Regarding what drives these imports.
A study of the demand side of the thing illuminates why wc ball python imports occur over and over, year after year. The first time I saw cheap wildcaught baby ball pythons was about 13 years ago at a summer reptile show in southern California. Memory wants to say it was held in Riverside but truthfully I don't recall exactly where. Anyway, for the first time, there were multiple hundreds of baby ball pythons retailing there at $3-6 each. All of Africa is on the auction block.

What's happened since then is that big money has got into the pet trade through setting up retail chain outlets. Petco is one. Petco pays certain individuals to import and sit on large numbers of so called farmed ball pythons. Get then feeding, polish them up, and supply their nation-wide outlets on an as-needed basis. They do this with wild caught adult Russian tortoises, also. This company touts itself as ethical yet turns its back on hard working captive breeders and instead supports trade in wild animals from overseas. (for the record they do support certain big time domestic leopard gecko breeders because they have to) I think big business causing the importation of thousand of ball pythons and adult Russian tortoises reflects poorly on them from an ethical standpoint. Bottom line is, cut-throat corporate greed and hypocrisy drives this thing.

Regarding what drives these imports.
A study of the demand side of the thing illuminates why wc ball python imports occur over and over, year after year. The first time I saw cheap wildcaught baby ball pythons was about 13 years ago at a summer reptile show in southern California. Memory wants to say it was held in Riverside but truthfully I don't recall exactly where. Anyway, for the first time, there were multiple hundreds of baby ball pythons retailing there at $3-6 each. All of Africa is on the auction block.

What's happened since then is that big money has got into the pet trade through setting up retail chain outlets. Petco is one. Petco pays certain individuals to import and sit on large numbers of so called farmed ball pythons. Get then feeding, polish them up, and supply their nation-wide outlets on an as-needed basis. They do this with wild caught adult Russian tortoises, also. This company touts itself as ethical yet turns its back on hard working captive breeders and instead supports trade in wild animals from overseas. (for the record they do support certain big time domestic leopard gecko breeders because they have to) I think big business causing the importation of thousand of ball pythons and adult Russian tortoises reflects poorly on them from an ethical standpoint. Bottom line is, cut-throat corporate greed and hypocrisy drives this thing.

Of course they do.... they make killing!


Small stores, breeders of all sizes import to make a killing..... it sucks!

Something I find interesting, another gentleman on fauna said it is illegal to import gravid animals. He also said a lot of them get confiscated if found. Does anyone know if this is true?

Something I find interesting, another gentleman on fauna said it is illegal to import gravid animals. He also said a lot of them get confiscated if found. Does anyone know if this is true?

I have heard for years it was illegal to import gravid females.

.....

This guy is on crack.

The end.

Newest ad.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/wildbill_photos/raregravids.jpg

They also have a few pictures I didn't take on the ad.

Newest ad.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/wildbill_photos/raregravids.jpg

Its pretty damn sad when you have to ask people not to flame you in the classified, to do it on your BOI bad guy thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a freakin loser! :machinegun:

Check this out.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/wildbill_photos/rarecinnamon.jpg

It's located here.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123705

12-24-2008, 12:30 PM #1
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POSS YB GRAVIDS
Here are videos of 2 import girls that we bought as YB Gravids. Of course, since they are imports the genetics are never known.









They are both for sale, and feel free to email offers to sales@rarepythons.com or send a PM.

Thanks

Chris
__________________
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WC BALL PYTHON IMPORTS
716-984-6520

Its pretty damn sad when you have to ask people not to flame you in the classified, to do it on your BOI bad guy thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a freakin loser! :machinegun:


Eventually he'll figure out to lock his threads like the rest of the losers.

and when he does that... that just shows he has not interest in acutally talking to prospective buyers... I will never lock my ads... Id rather you post your question.... but then again.... Im legit.

I'm just wondering who the idiot is that gave him Karma - tho I'm pretty sure he did it himself :lmao:

I'm just wondering who the idiot is that gave him Karma - tho I'm pretty sure he did it himself :lmao:

I'm wondering that also, I've been giving negative and he's still in the green.

Let your voices be heard. :devil:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123874

Mine is heard.... as usual....

yeah... I cant believe he actually posted that thread

Perhaps he thought it would generate business -- you know the old saying any publicity is good publicity.

Most likely he be an attention w h o r e ?

I agree, but I also just think he's an idiot. He thinks of himself as being well educated and the rest of us as ignant hicks. I snapped at him on BP.net and an hour or so later he sent this email to me....
--------------------------

WC Gravid Ball Python Imports Just In, Any Interest?‏
From: PT (sales@ptpaycheck.com)
Sent: Fri 12/26/08 11:27 AM
To: info@centralvalleypythons.com
I ran across your site on the web and figured I would drop a line. We just got some large gravid WC females in for the start of the season, and if you have interest in wholesale pricing feel free to let me know. All of our girls are treated for ticks and we have a 30 day unconditional money back guarantee on all imports.

Thanks for your time, and if I don't hear back from you I won't send any further e-mails.

Take Care,

Chris

RarePythons
716.984.6520
----------------------------------------

Yea, no kidding you ran across my site. It was directly under my name in the post where I said I would never do business with you. Nice one, genius.



Cheers,
Kat

OK this was kinda funny considering the should I stay or go threads he's postin everywhere but this caught the corner of my eye while on Fauna - it's his own banner.

http://jetpythons.com/rarego.jpg

:lol:

Looks like he's trying to dump his gravid imported snakes with someone elses help.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125762

http://jetpythons.com/headscratch.gif I'm not sure what's more ironic JnJ taking down Chris' puppet or that they had tried to flip his WC gravids :lol:

http://jetpythons.com/headscratch.gif I'm not sure what's more ironic JnJ taking down Chris' puppet or that they were going to flip his WC gravids :lol:

I'm sure the only reason he replied and said anything was to try and sell his gravids to the person starting the thread.

Wow what a POS. I can't believe there's still people out there buying this crap.

I put my two cents in...:machinegun:

<---- Still in favor of bringing back tarring and feathering.......





~Kat

<---- Still in favor of bringing back tarring and feathering.......





~Kat

Nice try, Kat, but I'm voting for drawing and quartering..

Guess who's back advertising on fauna. Someone taught him how to lock his ads now. He just bumped this thread to the top.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123702

I guess he's not selling his crap anywhere else.

Awwww, someone is going out of business. :wamma::wamma::wamma:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138293

Awwww, someone is going out of business. :wamma::wamma::wamma:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138293

Ehh - I'll believe it when I see it -- not the first time he said he was going away - and since he won't have any takers on the business -- I'm guessing at best he'll be back under another name. :rolleyes:

Ehh - I'll believe it when I see it -- not the first time he said he was going away - and since he won't have any takers on the business -- I'm guessing at best he'll be back under another name. :rolleyes:

Shhh, you're killing my happy dance buzz. :lmao:


Well, I think he's figuring out that importing gravids and low-end ch isn't paying off. I'm sure he will leave, I just think the animals he can't sell will pay the price for his ignorance. :dunno:

Shhh, you're killing my happy dance buzz. :lmao:


Well, I think he's figuring out that importing gravids and low-end ch isn't paying off. I'm sure he will leave, I just think the animals he can't sell will pay the price for his ignorance. :dunno:

Figuring out being a douche bag is bad for business? :cheers:

You can't say anything bad enough to truly convey how dishonest and low this scumbag is. I'd love it if someone came out with his "african contact". Take 35k (like he'd ever get a tenth of that!) right out of his pocket.

Thats too bad. He will be missed...:lmao:

Thats too bad. He will be missed...:lmao:

I'd like to think this place helped bring about his demise.... :battleflag:

I'd love it if someone came out with his "african contact".

1-800-Call-Noah
He'll gladly take your money :lmao:

I'll believe it when the last ad is gone. Good Riddance. The sad thing is that some other shmuck will step up to take his place...:mad:


~Kat

RarePythons Business For Sale
Well I've finally decided to move on. Too many businesses and too much to handle. I'm selling off my entire collection of ball pythons/boas which includes: 100+ regular wc adult breeding females (previously gravids) 500+ regular ch babies 2 large tiger boas many ball python morphs (current list depends on when business is sold, as we are liquidating them right now). website: www.rarepythons.com includes shopping cart interface, graphics, etc. associated with site. Genuine African Contact This contact is really the meat and potatoes of the business. There are only 2 brothers that do legitimate shipping out of Africa for ball pythons. This includes CITIES, veterinary services, airline setup, etc. Everyone else you see listed on the web are all scam artists. This is the contact for the one brother. It cost over $25k just to get this guys contact info to setup our importing of gravids, ball python wild caught morphs, and babies (depending on the season). There are really only one or two companies that know the names/contact info for these brothers and do direct importing other than ourselves. We will walk you through the whole importation process and get you setup with our broker as well. Our contact sends frequent emails with pictures of wild caught morphs with unbelievable never before seen patters or some that are more familiar such as lavender albinos, wc cinnamons, pieds, etc. We also get pictures and offers on gravid morphs such as ghosts, albinos, etc. when gravid season is in. Prices are always super cheap compared with anything stateside. Examples of a few animal offers from Africa for cheap: Some we take, some we pass on, but there are nice opportunities and weird stuff, sometimes gravid http://www.rarepythons.com/Fauna/africa/IMG_0027.jpg Business sale price is $35,000 or best offer. Other things included: 8 helix control thermostats heat tape water bowls, bags, bins (if you wish to pay shipping), and everything else associated with the business. Mountains of other small accessories such as probes, animal care supplies, etc.

You guys sure you don't want that Africa contact. :lmao:

Still for sale, guess he's not getting too many offers.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138293

This guy is an idiot he bought the african contact from adam at millenium morphs and mike something i forgot his last name them guys used to import a lot of different morphs and stuff, but this guy has no idea what hes doing so ya it looks like hes failing miserably at doin any kinda business. Adam and Mike were godo guys i got a few things from them way back when and they always had good customer service, they just didnt have time for this cuz they were getting into biofuels and stuff so they sold the bp import stuff to this poor sap who has no clue.