Just want everyone to know. There are 2 sides to Everything. But I cant post My side on this because I am Banned.. If I'm wrong for posting this here please delete it!

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152903

If it is ok to be here then I am going to slowly post to each thread.

Let's hear it...I just read that thread and that's about as low as one could go Jas...Your making fun of a mother's loss of her child? Seriously man - That's as cheap as they come...:(

Let's hear it...I just read that thread and that's about as low as one could go Jas...Your making fun of a mother's loss of her child? Seriously man - That's as cheap as they come...:(

It wasnt like that. She made it out that way..

Let's hear your side Jas.

It wasnt like that. She made it out that way..

Then let's hear it...I'm all ears -

Then let's hear it...I'm all ears -

It's gonna take a bit because I type slow. Just stand by. OK?

Post#10
This is from a women named "Lena" I knew her from some forums for awhile before this post she made. I knew she was a fake and even questioned some of our joint friends about her. They aggreed she was a fake. I finally figured it out and called her out on fb. Then she posted that thread on the boi. Keli and some other Assholes that knew I was banned from Fauna had to say there piece Knowing I couldnt comment. So I posted on kellis fb thread about the nice comment she made and about here lizard. Then She comes back to say I was wrong talking about someone that didnt even exist! and her buddy chimed in as well. So I said "Got skateboards" Just to piss them off. I type before thinking sometimes.. But I said it..

Post#10
This is from a women named "Lena" I knew her from some forums for awhile before this post she made. I knew she was a fake and even questioned some of our joint friends about her. They aggreed she was a fake. I finally figured it out and called her out on fb. Then she posted that thread on the boi. Keli and some other Assholes that knew I was banned from Fauna had to say there piece Knowing I couldnt comment. So I posted on kellis fb thread about the nice comment she made and about here lizard. Then She comes back to say I was wrong talking about someone that didnt even exist! and her buddy chimed in as well. So I said "Got skateboards" Just to piss them off. I type before thinking sometimes.. But I said it..

So you knew Lena's dad dying was a fake.
But you also knew Kellis son died with his skateboard was true.
Got skateboards
That is not just not thinking.... that is the lowest thing I have ever heard of!!!!!!!

That's all you have to say!..To say this is disturbing would obviously be an understatement.I am almost at a loss for words.I do my absolute best not to act or talk on impulse.I put my foot in my mouth as much as the next guy.But on my worst day,I could never say something like that Jas...Man I so bad was hoping you would turn over a new leaf and be cool and just act normal...I have read your post's and been familiar with you for a long time.Waaay back when we were on RDR's forums you would have me rolling at some of the stuff you'd say.But this ain't cool one bit.I hope you apologize to this lady with a phone call.That wont be good enough,and I don't think there is anything you can do make up for this...I don't look for you to be here on this forum much longer.

Post#10
This is from a women named "Lena" I knew her from some forums for awhile before this post she made. I knew she was a fake and even questioned some of our joint friends about her. They aggreed she was a fake. I finally figured it out and called her out on fb. Then she posted that thread on the boi. Keli and some other Assholes that knew I was banned from Fauna had to say there piece Knowing I couldnt comment. So I posted on kellis fb thread about the nice comment she made and about here lizard. Then She comes back to say I was wrong talking about someone that didnt even exist! and her buddy chimed in as well. So I said "Got skateboards" Just to piss them off. I type before thinking sometimes.. But I said it..

The whole lena situation i was never involved in so i don't know much but seriously making fun of a dead child to the moms face?:nono:

So you knew Lena's dad dying was a fake.
But you also knew Kellis son died with his skateboard was true.
Got skateboards
That is not just not thinking.... that is the lowest thing I have ever heard of!!!!!!!

I can go lower then that..:dunno:

The whole lena situation i was never involved in so i don't know much but seriously making fun of a dead child to the moms face?:nono:
######## you you nameless coward!:lmao:

That's all you have to say!..To say this is disturbing would obviously be an understatement.I am almost at a loss for words.I do my absolute best not to act or talk on impulse.I put my foot in my mouth as much as the next guy.But on my worst day,I could never say something like that Jas...Man I so bad was hoping you would turn over a new leaf and be cool and just act normal...I have read your post's and been familiar with you for a long time.Waaay back when we were on RDR's forums you would have me rolling at some of the stuff you'd say.But this ain't cool one bit.I hope you apologize to this lady with a phone call.That wont be good enough,and I don't think there is anything you can do make up for this...I don't look for you to be here on this forum much longer.

Who are you?

######## you you nameless coward!:lmao:

I don't want to be banned from here so ill keep it civil ,

This guy is mad at me because i stated in the boi thread i would never deal with a guy who makes fun of a dead child to the moms face like that and that anyone who would do business with him knowing what he did i would steer clear from as well .


btw im far from being an anonymous person , my full name and info is posted for all to see . Seems your a big man to kick a woman in her worst moment i see.

Jasballs has left the building..

for those who saw the boi post , was i wrong in my statements? having a son myself it would drive me over the wall if what happened to Kelli happened to me .

Jasballs has left the building..

I hope you made it permanent this time

It's a shame he can't control his . :dunno:

Ooooof! What a train wreck.....gotta love Ubaldo's (ozz465) last post, though!

Ooooof! What a train wreck.....gotta love Ubaldo's (ozz465) last post, though!

For a min i had no clue what this meant , then i saw the other thread :lmao:

i even went with the blbc instead of the actual site name since i know there filtered, was shocked even that was edited out.

For a min i had no clue what this meant , then i saw the other thread :lmao:

i even went with the blbc instead of the actual site name since i know there filtered, was shocked even that was edited out.

Yeah...they love us there. :yes:

Jasballs has left the building..

Please don't ever let him back.

I have seen jas go low before.... but that was beyond whale crap low. jas you will smoke a turd in hell for that one buddy..... :nono: And I still think its funny Rich Z wont allow BLBC to be mentioned on fauna... what a tool! :lmao:

We are still censored like an obscenity over there...that is pretty funny.

We are still censored like an obscenity over there...that is pretty funny.

We get the ####...... :lmao:

We are still censored like an obscenity over there...that is pretty funny.

We get the ####...... :lmao:

:lmao::lmao:

We get the ####...... :lmao:

I just read the threads as an outsider so I don't get the signatures, full names, etc....I don't even get to see that I just get the blank treatment...lol

But you also knew Kellis son died with his skateboard was true.
Got skateboards
That is not just not thinking.... that is the lowest thing I have ever heard of!!!!!!!
I can go lower then that..:dunno:

That was some defense.

Jas I have one bit of advice for you.
Never act as your own attorney. :nono:

thats hard to read and i cant even imagine how this woman must feel. then to say he can go lower than that is the top of the iceberg.

never had something to do with him (never talked- never discussed on forums etc) so he was a blank leave for me, nut this just sickens me.

glad hes gone!

btw- why do the edit blbc there?

Great call BLBC mods... Kudos... One less foul mouthed clown!! I have to make mention; some day; Big John; you will run across an equal... Some day!!!

btw- why do the edit blbc there?

Because the BLBC speaks the truth..... They edited my last post there in seconds.I expected it so I applied the waving smiley.

Yea rich added a reason for the editing .Its like biggie and tupac all over again :lmao:

Yea rich added a reason for the editing .Its like biggie and tupac all over again :lmao:

I saw that...I mean I love it when he is made to bring up this site and why he has to censor us like he does.....personal attacks what a wusss :lmao::lmao:

I couldn't believe that Jas sunk that low. I remember when Kelli's son was killed. Heartbreaking. Hey Jeff, if you ever do want to see the writing, I haven't been banned, yet, from fauna. You could pm me and I could send you my password. LMAO!

i asked it over there too- uve seen the response...

what were these personal attacks? did someone of u told him he ruined the cornsnake market when he sold his entire collection or what?

if so- in my eyes its nothin but the truth



edit: kare- if someone cant read it- shouldnt we just copy and paste his comment or is that illegal?

that's the rub, Joe. He DIDN'T sell the entire collection. He released many into the wild which is a problem giving all the government accusations about herpers releasing animals.

Jas lasted two weeks that is a new record! He was trying I will give him that but I knew that it wouldn't last!

Brock

Hey Jeff, if you ever do want to see the writing, I haven't been banned, yet, from fauna. You could pm me and I could send you my password. LMAO!

Oh I'm not banned, I just don't sign in...

i asked it over there too- uve seen the response...

what were these personal attacks? did someone of u told him he ruined the cornsnake market when he sold his entire collection or what?

if so- in my eyes its nothin but the truth



edit: kare- if someone cant read it- shouldnt we just copy and paste his comment or is that illegal?

that's the rub, Joe. He DIDN'T sell the entire collection. He released many into the wild which is a problem giving all the government accusations about herpers releasing animals.

Joe, mainly its me and a few others here that went after him full bore when he posted videos of captive bred corns he found on his property that he had released right smack in the middle of the fight against banning snakes here in the US. I was actually a mod on fauna many moons ago. He seems to think I have something personal against him when in reality, I was pissed about him posting those videos.
And I also made public comments about him crashing the corn snake market when he retired by dumping his high end corn snakes at ridiculous prices at the Daytona show. So yes, what you said is true.... and I will say it all again to his face if he ever gives me the chance! :D

Joe, mainly its me and a few others here that went after him full bore when he posted videos of captive bred corns he found on his property that he had released right smack in the middle of the fight against banning snakes here in the US. I was actually a mod on fauna many moons ago. He seems to think I have something personal against him when in reality, I was pissed about him posting those videos.
And I also made public comments about him crashing the corn snake market when he retired by dumping his high end corn snakes at ridiculous prices at the Daytona show. So yes, what you said is true.... and I will say it all again to his face if he ever gives me the chance! :D

i wish i could see him to say many things to the little man :D

as you might know him and i dont get along well. i am surprised he pulled my perma ban :lmao:

i wish i could see him to say many things to the little man :D

as you might know him and i dont get along well. i am surprised he pulled my perma ban :lmao:

He will never lift mine which is fine with me. I dont have any plans to be a productive member of that cesspool anyway....

He will never lift mine which is fine with me. I dont have any plans to be a productive member of that cesspool anyway....

Same here....:cheers:

He will never lift mine which is fine with me. I dont have any plans to be a productive member of that cesspool anyway....

i didnt think he would ever ban mine either but after a few years he did :O

i would have loved to see you spank him down. much love, man! :rockon:

i think since he unbanned me i posted once and that was it. i do not go over there so i didn't know about the boi post, i only knew about the stuff with kelli on FB.

jas is wasted space

Jeez... i dont hardly get on for a few days and JAS blows stuff up again!

I almost wanna go so far as to say that it seems like he had mental issues... like what he said to KelliH was so rude & vulgar! WOW

With that said, i'll never deal with JAS.

Well, I haven't been here in a while. I haven't been on many reptile sites lately. Jas has no business being on any site, what I mean is, he should not be allowed to speak. I think he is better off being kept silent, for his own good. He more or less gets banned from every site he joins. If someone wants to critisize me for my opinion, that is fine, I can take it.

As for Lena, Jas did not know at the time of his nasty remarks that she was lying about who she was. At the time we were all still fooled by her as to who she was. Jas made some really bad statements. From what I remember he was making remarks about her dad touching her in an unappropriate way. I'm not going to go back and read what she had said.

I have only heard rumors as to why Rich has a dislike for this site. The rumor I heard was that it had to do with people over here ragging on him for releasing captive bred corn snakes. I have said this before about the crashing of the corns. Rich did not crash the corn market. I have been to many shows where I saw corn morphs for dirt cheap.

There is no one person responsible for crashing any of the species markets. Most if not all of the markets are in the gutter. They will be there for a while, and they more then likely won't ever get any better. People will still want to pay the market crashing prices they are seeing now. This goes for all species markets.

Instead of fighting amoungst ourselves, we should all try to get along. We may last longer as a community.

Instead of fighting amoungst ourselves, we should all try to get along. We may last longer as a community.

Tell that to Rich Z.

I have only heard rumors as to why Rich has a dislike for this site. The rumor I heard was that it had to do with people over here ragging on him for releasing captive bred corn snakes. I have said this before about the crashing of the corns. Rich did not crash the corn market. I have been to many shows where I saw corn morphs for dirt cheap.

There is no one person responsible for crashing any of the species markets. Most if not all of the markets are in the gutter. They will be there for a while, and they more then likely won't ever get any better. People will still want to pay the market crashing prices they are seeing now. This goes for all species markets.

Instead of fighting amoungst ourselves, we should all try to get along. We may last longer as a community.

That's a whole different topic/s - feel free to start a thread about it, but let's try and stay on topic here.

Joe, mainly its me and a few others here that went after him full bore when he posted videos of captive bred corns he found on his property that he had released right smack in the middle of the fight against banning snakes here in the US. I was actually a mod on fauna many moons ago. He seems to think I have something personal against him when in reality, I was pissed about him posting those videos.
And I also made public comments about him crashing the corn snake market when he retired by dumping his high end corn snakes at ridiculous prices at the Daytona show. So yes, what you said is true.... and I will say it all again to his face if he ever gives me the chance! :D


thanks for clearing that up for me!:cheers:

I don't post much but I read a lotl
I thought it was because almost all you guys have nothing but bad and often unproven crap to say about him. Lots of you bitch like little girls when you get threads started over there too.
John has always been the turd in the punch bowl. People who buy animals from turds are crappy people.

I don't post much but I read a lotl
I thought it was because almost all you guys have nothing but bad and often unproven crap to say about him. Lots of you bitch like little girls when you get threads started over there too.
John has always been the turd in the punch bowl. People who buy animals from turds are crappy people.


if this comes up when u post, i think u should behave like before- read but dont post...

if this comes up when u post, i think u should behave like before- read but dont post...

:lmao::yessir:

I don't post much but I read a lotl
I thought it was because almost all you guys have nothing but bad and often unproven crap to say about him. Lots of you bitch like little girls when you get threads started over there too.
John has always been the turd in the punch bowl. People who buy animals from turds are crappy people.

If you read alot you would know that by making that unproven statement you just layed a turd of your own. Keep drinking the kool-aid from that same punch bowl.

if this comes up when u post, i think u should behave like before- read but dont post...

Joe that was a good response.
You just moved up my fun to read list. :yes:

Joe that was a good response.
You just moved up my fun to read list. :yes:


:lmao: thank u

I don't post much but I read a lotl
I thought it was because almost all you guys have nothing but bad and often unproven crap to say about him. Lots of you bitch like little girls when you get threads started over there too.
John has always been the turd in the punch bowl. People who buy animals from turds are crappy people.

I have to agree with joe on this one... keep reading and stop posting.

I don't post much but I read a lotl
I thought it was because almost all you guys have nothing but bad and often unproven crap to say about him. Lots of you bitch like little girls when you get threads started over there too.
John has always been the turd in the punch bowl. People who buy animals from turds are crappy people.

Wow... :nono:

LOL.

Seriously.

You guys can sure dish it out but you can'[t take it at all.

LOL.

Seriously.

You guys can sure dish it out but you can'[t take it at all.

LOL....

Make a new thread if you want to talk about yourself. This thread is about jas....

Saw this was posted over on the fauna thread....Looks like Jas did send Kelli an e-mail apologizing for what he said.



New message from John
Mail: jasballs@msn.com
Website:

Message: Kelli Hi, This is Jas (John stranahan) I just want you to know. I am Very sorry for what I said on your fb page. If you remeber way back I was there to support you at the time this terrible accident happened. When I posted that I knew it was wrong. But I had some friends that will remain nameless tell me you were saying some nasty stuff about me in HELL (on fuana). I just got Pissed and said the first thing to you that I knew would piss you off aswell. Sucks I didnt just say your gecko was ugly or something! I do not blame you for hateing me or do I blame you for posting on any boi thread I have. I just Really want you to know Im truely Sorry for what I said.
John

i dont believe him. not one single word.

i believe what he said here: he can go lower than that...

why was he banned from the BLBC?

Saw this was posted over on the fauna thread....Looks like Jas did send Kelli an e-mail apologizing for what he said.
Every time this guy gets called out for being a completely callous and cruel individual, he makes nice and says he's sorry. It's usually after he's banned....again....from yet another forum. In person, he's nice as pie. In reality, he is the classic over the top, behind the keyboard, forum tough guy....when he's in the safety of his own home. Hopefully Kelli forgives him, hopefully his apology was sincere, hopefully no other reptile site gives him the opportunity to voice his bile in public again. :yes:

why was he banned from the BLBC?
Because he does not know how to conduct himself publicly without leaving a trail of carnage in his wake.

Every time this guy gets called out for being a completely callous and cruel individual, he makes nice and says he's sorry. It's usually after he's banned....again....from yet another forum. In person, he's nice as pie. In reality, he is the classic over the top, behind the keyboard, forum tough guy....when he's in the safety of his own home. Hopefully Kelli forgives him, hopefully his apology was sincere, hopefully no other reptile site gives him the opportunity to voice his bile in public again. :yes:

I agree :yessir:

Because he does not know how to conduct himself publicly without leaving a trail of carnage in his wake.

Just my opinion but if he didnt post it on the BLBC I dont think he should be banned from here. I dont agree with what he said nor am I defending him just saying he should be banned from wherever he posted his nonsense. I'm not a mod and could care less either way but just saying...

Just my opinion but if he didnt post it on the BLBC I dont think he should be banned from here. I dont agree with what he said nor am I defending him just saying he should be banned from wherever he posted his nonsense. I'm not a mod and could care less either way but just saying...

but he postet a link to what he said there. it was noone else. i ask me al the time why did that. that thread is from june...

i think he brought it to the blbc so they (we) have to deal with it.

otherwise i would say ur right. u should may post what u want on fb or elsewhere without getting banned here...

######## you you nameless coward!:lmao:

He was banned for this post. Not for anything said elsewhere.

He was banned for this post. Not for anything said elsewhere.

Gotcha... I read that post and thought he put the ## in there... safe to assume he put some not so nice words in there... naughty naughty

He was banned for this post. Not for anything said elsewhere.

Fair enough. :yes:

I have heard tell John is a piece of work on line. He was banned from everywhere when i started signing on so I have never seen any of this stuff and have not investigated. If he is this disruptive I can see your point in not wanting him around. With that said I have dealt with John personally. Over the computer, on the phone, and at his home. I am actually surprised to see him viewed as such an asshole. The guy was very nice and friendly. When i came to pick up the snakes he shook my hand and offered me a beer. That is a good first impression in my book. He showed me his setups and answered any questions I had as I was just getting into this whole thing. I think he is a really nice guy in my dealings with him and would not hesitate to call him again. Now I understand with vulgar posts he may portray himself differently and may not be someone you want to deal with understandably. However i don't feel like a turd as previously stated and to abbreviate for Joe SHH is your best policy as you possess the same social skills as John is being accused of. Bottom line as far as animals he has extremely nice stuff and knows what he is doing. I would think that most would agree that his "product" is nice even if you think he sucks.

Gary, as we have spoken of John before, I'm sure you can understand my post earlier. I just don't get the guy.

However i don't feel like a turd as previously stated and to abbreviate for Joe SHH is your best policy as you possess the same social skills as John is being accused of.
I also don't get this statement, and who it was directed towards? :dunno:

I would bet that was referring to post #51 from greensnake...

I would bet that was referring to post #51 from greensnake...

I'm more curious as to the SHH for Joe. I'm assuming Gary's referring to Joe23, but I wasn't sure what he was abbreviating.

Gary and I are friends, and I would certainly not question his integrity. In fact, I think he purchased from John right around the same time I met him(John). I had told him that despite his questionable internet persona, John was a very nice guy in person, and I would certainly not consider him a turd from buying from him.....maybe because of how he supposedly smells after work, but not from buying from Jas :lmao::lmao::lmao: !

I read it as shhhhhh, like shush?

Ahhhhhh.

The SHH was directed at the other guy not Joe. I agreed with his comment. I am sorry if I worded it wrong.

There are a lot of people in this world and I have learned not to make statements I can't stand behind or have experience with.

I read it as shhhhhh, like shush?

Bingo.

Sorry for the wrong words. Joe and his anti-baby pills rocks. LOL

Bingo.

Sorry for the wrong words. Joe and his anti-baby pills rocks. LOL

LMAO!!! That is now what I refer to them as!:rockon:

Admittedly I can be a bit rough around the edges when posting at times, but when I read what he wrote to Kelli, it made my jaw drop... We are all guilty of being asses at times but there are certain lines he crossed with that statement he left Kelli on FB... It was well beyond being an ass... TBH, I do not think the apology was worth the time it took Kelli to read it...