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Papa Wyrm
12-12-2010, 04:02 AM
Is there a specific blood line or locality of GTP that has more blue in the animal? I read the sticky, and it seems like its a big crap shoot.
I've been kicking around the idea of getting a pair after tax season, but i need to do some homework first. Any links, info, or pics would be helpful.

bsharrah
12-12-2010, 08:28 AM
There are lines and localities that offer a greater chance of blue but their are varying degrees of blue. Some mainland localities, actually most, offer a greater chance for blue patterns which is not the same as an overall blue tone that some lines produced. Regardless if you are looking at the blue lines or specific localities with blue markings, if you want an animal with a specific amount of blue, you need to be prepared to pay the price for a changed adult. Both offer a greater "chance" of blue so it is still somewhat of a crap shoot if you are trying to spend less by purchasing a neonate or unchanged juvenile.

JohnR
12-12-2010, 08:50 AM
Yeah, be prepared to spend a lot of money on blueline animals. There are some different lines out there and different prices. I won't post pictures because they aren't mine, but I'll provide links.

For example, Greg Stephens is selling a 50% blueblood female for $12,000
http://www.arborealspecialties.com/Available%20green%20tree%20pythons.html
Scroll down on his ad

Right below that one is another blueline neo for $2000

Then there is FineGTP, Bobby Keller's site:
http://www.finegtps.com/current_pairings.php
He has some pairings going on and you can see pictures of the parents along with expected prices. If you want one of his, get on the list.

Rico Walder has some too, though not as blue as others:
http://www.signalherp.com/
$1500 will get you one of his

Papa Wyrm
12-12-2010, 05:17 PM
Yeah, be prepared to spend a lot of money on blueline animals. There are some different lines out there and different prices. I won't post pictures because they aren't mine, but I'll provide links.

For example, Greg Stephens is selling a 50% blueblood female for $12,000
http://www.arborealspecialties.com/Available%20green%20tree%20pythons.html
Scroll down on his ad

Right below that one is another blueline neo for $2000

Then there is FineGTP, Bobby Keller's site:
http://www.finegtps.com/current_pairings.php
He has some pairings going on and you can see pictures of the parents along with expected prices. If you want one of his, get on the list.

Rico Walder has some too, though not as blue as others:
http://www.signalherp.com/
$1500 will get you one of his
Thanks for the links john, and let the search begin lol.

joe23
12-13-2010, 12:20 AM
heres what, what maybe interrest u:

Myth # 9: "Blue chondros will produce babies that will be blue as adults too"

Facts: Actually, you could substitute other colors for "blue"... yellow being the most common. The truth is, while parents having a desired trait may possess a better chance at producing offspring with that same trait, only a percentage of the offspring will show varying degrees of that trait. Some bloodlines are definitely more potent than others, and only from seeing past results can you make an intelligent assessment about a particular animal's potential for throwing like offspring. I would never pay outrageous prices for unchanged babies based solely on the appearance of a parent with no proven past results.



its from the myth section on fine gtps

Papa Wyrm
12-13-2010, 01:00 AM
yea i read that, thanks for throwing it out there though. I think if i do decide to get a few (which i pretty much have), i'd like to shoot for one that at least has a chance of having some blues.

Papa Wyrm
12-13-2010, 01:01 AM
They are some wicked cool looking snakes to say the least.

Golden Gate Geckos
12-15-2010, 05:06 PM
Make sure you are getting a gecko that is ontogenetically blue, and no hormonally blue.

bsharrah
12-15-2010, 06:46 PM
Make sure you are getting a gecko that is ontogenetically blue, and no hormonally blue.

Obsessed with geckos are we? :)

Papa Wyrm
12-15-2010, 07:09 PM
Make sure you are getting a gecko that is ontogenetically blue, and no hormonally blue.

:lmao::lmao:yes ma'am!
Seriously though thank you for that, i saw a few posts alluding to chondros going more blue because of hormones, and was curious at how much they change.

Wall-I
12-16-2010, 01:42 AM
:lmao::lmao:yes ma'am!
Seriously though thank you for that, i saw a few posts alluding to chondros going more blue because of hormones, and was curious at how much they change.

Here's how much a female can turn hormonal blue. Female on the right. Same female in the blue

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk103/rksmrz/IMG_0728.jpg?t=1292481282

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk103/rksmrz/IMG_0703.jpg

Wall-I
12-16-2010, 02:02 AM
To add to my above post, the photo of her when she was green is a few years and clutches ago old. After each clutch after, she retained more of her blue hue and for a longer time.

A word on the blue lines. Most of them are morphs specialy bred to look that way, therefore costly. If you just want a nice animal with nice blue markings, look at the Sorongs whose trademarks are the blue striping and blue triangles. I was selling these Sorong hatchlings for $300. See above Photo.


PS hey Bart, need anymore rubbermaid 2223's

Golden Gate Geckos
12-21-2010, 01:17 AM
Obsessed with geckos are we? LOL!!!!!! Around here, everything is a gecko! Thanks for knowing what I meant...

Sloop John B
12-30-2010, 02:10 PM
If you are seriously thinking of pursuing blue in a chondro, I would highly recommend sifting through about a 100 posts on the subject on the Morelia Viridis Forums...very complicated (high blue, true blue, hormonal blue) and interesting.

Bigtattoo
01-05-2011, 04:54 PM
I haven't kept up on GTPs much. I never new there was a difference in hormonal and genetic blues.

The comparison shots above are astounding.

Thanks for that link John I ought to do some reading.