alright folks, do chondro's exhibit the same temperament as carpets in the first year?

alright folks, do chondro's exhibit the same temperament as carpets in the first year?

Individual animals have different defense reactions. You can go with the generalities (biaks will eat your face) but I've had several baby biaks that were sweethearts. I also have one at home right now that will try to nail the glass when I walk by, so yeah... But just my opinion is that they are more defensive as a whole then alot of the other snakes, especially for people that are used to balls and the calmer animals like that. Seems anything arboreal, carpets, green trees, mack's, they're all usually pretty fiesty in comparison.

I like to keep them a bit nippy so I tend to ignore them for the first six months and only open their cage for feeding/cleaning. Makes them easier to feed. But if they are nippy, it's only at night. As they grow older, they calm down, especially the Sorong types who can become quite trust worthy. Don't try this with a Biak. LOL

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I personally never handle any of my Chondros unless there's a medical emergency. If I want to move them to another enclosure I just take them out on their branch. Chondros seem to be a lot less tolerant of handling than other species and I'd rather not stress them, add to that the fact that their spines are super delicate (even when adult) As far as aggression goes, I've realised that they wont bother you if you dont bother them, even my pair of Biaks are well behaved (providing you don't mess with them)
The only thing I need to watch out for is a feeding response, my Aru neo is such a greedy little bugger that I can see her mistaking my fingers for food in the future!

Thank you all for your time and knowledge. so from what i understand, it is more of a locale thing then a general rule, although there is always an exception or two!

eveny one i have had was tame and handleable, and never had any problems doing so. I dont handle them as much as other pythons...maybe once a month....

I've had and have... tame and mean ones. A truely "trustworthy" one is fairly hard to come by in my book. I would rather say easy to read... I "trust" all but one or two of my chondros to exibit the reaction I expect from them on a case by case basis. ;)
Some tolerate handling very well, others do not. And this is at any age. Not that I condone handling of neos. I disagree with the notion that adults are exceptionally fragile. I will site a particular adult male I have will massive scars from a fight with a female along with my own handling experience. They are quite strong and their slenderness is misleading. It is what it is, but I wouldn't call an adult fragile in any stretch of the word.
All that aside, many keepers do not handle at all, save and emergency. For some animals in my own collection, I completely agree. Some simply stress and freak - handling causing more harm than it's worth. A greater majority, howerver will tollerate handling to some degree. One thing for sure, limiting the handling limits the bites... lol
To the original question, I'm not a carpet guy, but have been around a few juvs and if you mean the nippyness, yes. They do tend to calm down after a year. But... I think it's more true that the hatchling attitude or behavior goes by the clutch. 60% or better of a single clutch tends to act the same. Calm - evil - good feeders - bad feeders - whatever. Then many will alter their moods permenantly after 6 months.

I'm scared to death of an adult GTB biting me...But I have a soft spot for the tree dwellers..

I have 3 Biak type chondros: an 8-year old male, a 5-year old female and a 2 year old male. All 3 are CBB and were sold to me as "Biaks" which I take to mean Biak-type in their markings and facial shape. I don't think you can really call any chondro a pure locale specific unless you have a paper trail of the parents all the way back to original imports. That being said, all of mine exhibit the large face, tall dragon nose, and yellow, blue, black and white typical of Biaks, the most colorful locale.

Now, all 3 of mine are perfectly calm, handleable snakes. I have them set up with removable perches, and to get a snake out I just pick up the perch and leave it up to the animal whether it wants to come off the perch or not. Most times, they will come off the perch and scoot up my arms, at which point they can be handled like any other snake. I would not call a one of my mine "aggressive" by any stretch of the imagination. I have only been bitten once by the female and that was trying to remove her from a soak. She got startled when the lid came off and flew out. The two boys have never struck at me. I honestly think it's all in how you approach them. Never approach from above- their natural predators usually attack from above in the wild. Be slow and steady and you'll be fine in most cases.
Are there flat-out mean chondros? Sure. There are flat-out mean other snake species, dogs, cats, horses, rodents, birds, and for that matter, people. It's all in the individual.

I would agree with Damon. I would not call them fragile at all. With the correct conditions they do great. In stark comparison to emerald tree boas, of which I have struggled with for 15 years to keep.
I have great respect for all my animals and the chondros prefer to be left alone so I don't handle mine much.

My first chondro, Chahaya, is very predictably tame. My others are not very predictable, but will tolerate daytime handling.

All of mine are meaner that hell...:)

I have a Wamena that's 8 months old, feeds no problem and is calm and mellow. So is my 2yo jungle carpet. all in the individual

I have a Wamena that's 8 months old, feeds no problem and is calm and mellow. So is my 2yo jungle carpet. all in the individual

I jinxed myself, I was cleaning chondros cage today and he snapped at me for the first time...as if he was annoyed.

Thank you all for your time and knowledge. so from what i understand, it is more of a locale thing then a general rule, although there is always an exception or two!

Just remember that unless you are having animals shipped directly from New Guinea and the capture information is accurately reported, you don't really have a "locale" animal. All CBB animals are labeled "locales" if they have similar characteristics to animals that are typically seen in that actual locale in the South Pacific, this tends to lead people to think nearly every yellow, ill-tempered, mid-sized carpet is a Biak. I am in no way a GTP expert, but when I had them my "Biak" was the nicest out of the group and the "Sorong" and "Meruake" (only using the locale names because that is what they were sold as but all were CBB)were mean as hell.

Just remember that unless you are having animals shipped directly from New Guinea and the capture information is accurately reported, you don't really have a "locale" animal. All CBB animals are labeled "locales" if they have similar characteristics to animals that are typically seen in that actual locale in the South Pacific, this tends to lead people to think nearly every yellow, ill-tempered, mid-sized carpet is a Biak. I am in no way a GTP expert, but when I had them my "Biak" was the nicest out of the group and the "Sorong" and "Meruake" (only using the locale names because that is what they were sold as but all were CBB)were mean as hell.

Sounds good to me!:yes:

All CBB animals are labeled "locales" if they have similar characteristics to animals that are typically seen in that actual locale in the South Pacific, this tends to lead people to think nearly every yellow, ill-tempered, mid-sized carpet is a Biak.

I meant to say green tree python, not carpet

I meant to say green tree python, not carpet

I didn't even catch that.

I have carpets on my mind at all times haha

I have carpets on my mind at all times haha