Just wondering what everybodies favorite triple co-dom morph is. I was lucking enough to snag a male Queen/bee this season which is a leeser, spider and pastel so I'm going to vote Queen/bee..:)

That's a tough one - Too damn many to choose from...The Spinner Blast is a favorite...The Lesser/Pastel/Pin (can't remember the name) is a smoker but the ol Queen Bee is hard to beat...

I am going to go with the good old Killer Bee. Though the Queen bee and Spinner Blast are hard to beat. I want to see Fire Blast. I think that is going to be HOT :cool:

If I can get this FireFly eating I could possibly have a shot at the Fire Pastel Spider I'm not sure if it's been done but if it has I bet it's pretty hot.

That will be a HOT one also. So many combos, so little time.

JP

Easily the Queen Bee!!

Easily the Queen Bee!!

HAHA I agree

I am partial to the bumble belly - but before I fully commit I wanna see what it looks like all growed up -- I hate when I fall in love with a new morph only to see it crap out as an adult. :o

Woma lesser lemon, Super Stripe Pastel are my favorite.

That's a hard one!!

Not sure I can answer that question... There's so many triple co-dom combo's out there nowadays... and all of them are equally as badass!

Killer bee


:letsparty:

I really like the killerbee mojave.

Spinner blast.

Alan

This year I'm hoping for a couple triple co-doms....
Pastel Yellowbelly x Spider
Butter x Bumblebee
Bumblebee x Pastel
Bumblebee x Mojave
Bumblebee x Pin

My favorites would be the woma lesser pastel and the queen bee. Spinner blasts are pretty nifty, too. I think a killer queen bee would be something to see, as well. But the woma lesser pastel that NERD's got up on their site takes the cake for me as far as triple codoms go.

If I can get this FireFly eating I could possibly have a shot at the Fire Pastel Spider I'm not sure if it's been done but if it has I bet it's pretty hot.

make some firefly anything and put one aside for me for tradebait...
hopefully i'll have somethin' for you to desire.
love me some firefly !
ck

I am partial to the bumble belly - but before I fully commit I wanna see what it looks like all growed up -- I hate when I fall in love with a new morph only to see it crap out as an adult. :o

i'm tryin' for that combo this year. i think they smoke too !
wish me luck,
ck

I really like the killerbee mojave.

that's a quad !
ck

Not sure yet I like them all. My plans next year are to buy at least 2 3 gene animals. Huge queen bee fan, Killer Bee and The spinner blast. About the same as everyone else.

that's a quad !
ck

:lol: No wonder I like it! If I have to play by the rules then I like the Bumblebee Mojave also. :)

that's a quad !
ck

is it really considered a quad if it's a homozyous gene? I mean, it's still only three genes, right?

is it really considered a quad if it's a homozyous gene? I mean, it's still only three genes, right?

touchee' brotha...
i bet randy remngton could shed some good light on how that should be interpreted. but your point is well taken. i base my interpretation on the fact that four mutated genes need to be brought to the table by the parents. if the morph could reproduce itself when bred with a normal that would pretty much ice your interpretation. but, a killer bee mojave with it's three genes (according to what your say ) can't reproduce itself without breeding it to another pastel gene coming from the other parent. i read that as 3+1=4. now we all know, genetic nomenclature has been proven fuzzy on more than one occasion. i hope randy gets a hold of this thread and clears this up,i'll accept any insight he sheds on this as correct, and irrefutable.
if the dice fall your way, allow me to graciously bow to your superior interpretive abilities,
ck

Easy, the spinner blast! That is one killer combo.

Easy, the spinner blast! That is one killer combo.

I like that spinner blast too :rockon: The spinner blast woma is pretty damn hott for a 4 banger...:cool:

touchee' brotha...
i bet randy remngton could shed some good light on how that should be interpreted. but your point is well taken. i base my interpretation on the fact that four mutated genes need to be brought to the table by the parents. if the morph could reproduce itself when bred with a normal that would pretty much ice your interpretation. but, a killer bee mojave with it's three genes (according to what your say ) can't reproduce itself without breeding it to another pastel gene coming from the other parent. i read that as 3+1=4. now we all know, genetic nomenclature has been proven fuzzy on more than one occasion. i hope randy gets a hold of this thread and clears this up,i'll accept any insight he sheds on this as correct, and irrefutable.
if the dice fall your way, allow me to graciously bow to your superior interpretive abilities,
ck

I can see it either way.. And honestly it doesn't matter much to me as to whether it is a quad or triple combo. It's just the first thought I had, and it was that it's still just the pastel gene, regardless of whether it's homozygous or not. There are some other combos that can't reproduce themselves. (I mean codom/dom combos, it's obvious a recessive can't reproduce itself when bred to a normal.)

I can see it either way.. And honestly it doesn't matter much to me as to whether it is a quad or triple combo. It's just the first thought I had, and it was that it's still just the pastel gene, regardless of whether it's homozygous or not. There are some other combos that can't reproduce themselves. (I mean codom/dom combos, it's obvious a recessive can't reproduce itself when bred to a normal.)

i'd still be curious to hear what randy thinks.
ck

For me there are a few.
Killer Bee Pin :rockon:
Enchi X Pastel X Spider = Enchi Bee MMMMM

For me there are a few.
Killer Bee Pin :rockon:
Enchi X Pastel X Spider = Enchi Bee MMMMM

See, it's not just me. Wildmorph believes killer spinner blasts to be a triple gene too. :greenman:

See, it's not just me. Wildmorph believes killer spinner blasts to be a triple gene too. :greenman:

The way I see it a gene is any number of copy's of a particular phenotype. To me now this may be 100% wrong but if an animal contains two copy's of a co-dom phenotype aka super then it still only has one phenotype it just has two copy's of that phenotype.

So a super pastel isn't a combo (to me) but a Killer Bee is a two gene combo created by two copys of one gene and one of the other. :D

But that's just me.

Yeppers. That's how I thought of it too.. The only time it gets a little confusing would be with the white snake complex genes... where the supers and combos end up looking almost identical.. well, in most cases. Otherwise, it's 1 gene, it just may have 2 copies of it. :wamma: LOL. I've never used that guy and figured this may be an appropriate place to put him. :wamma:

Yeppers. That's how I thought of it too.. The only time it gets a little confusing would be with the white snake complex genes... where the supers and combos end up looking almost identical.. well, in most cases. Otherwise, it's 1 gene, it just may have 2 copies of it. :wamma: LOL. I've never used that guy and figured this may be an appropriate place to put him. :wamma:

The white snake thing can get complex. The best way to think of it is there are Supers that are white snakes and combos that are white snakes. :cheers:

The white snake thing can get complex. The best way to think of it is there are Supers that are white snakes and combos that are white snakes. :cheers:

Well, I suppose that if you ever end up with a white snake and you are wondering if it's a combo or a super, you're in a mighty fine position. I suppose that would only happen if you were breeding 2 white snakes that happened to be combos.. Sounds like a good problem to have to me.

Larry I like the Queenbee for a triple codom right now.

Brock:wamma:

Queen Bees are cool... I like Killer Blasts too

Queen bee... and if this is considered a triple, the Axanthic Killerbee.

Queen bee... and if this is considered a triple, the Axanthic Killerbee.

axan kb is off the hook !
as far as bein' a 3bagger...
ask lucid !
ck

I have been digging the bumblebellies lately. (Pastel Spider Yellowbelly) :rockon:

Bumblebee Enchi (Pastel X Spider X Enchi), and Kingspin (Pinstripe X Spider X Lesser) :rockon:

I'd have picked the axanthic killerbee too, but it's got a recessive thrown in there, so I'm not sure if it counts. LOL. I suppose since there really aren't any "rules" to what you like, I'll go with the axanthic bee and axanthic killer bee as well.

If we are going to let in recessives I'm going to have to say the hypo mojave pinstripe (aka ghost jigsaw) that Marshall Van Thorre hatched this year. I haven't seen it in person but the baby pictures where very nice. I really like something about hypo mojave to start with and then the pinstripe really tweaked it up another level.

If we are going to let in recessives I'm going to have to say the hypo mojave pinstripe (aka ghost jigsaw) that Marshall Van Thorre hatched this year. I haven't seen it in person but the baby pictures where very nice. I really like something about hypo mojave to start with and then the pinstripe really tweaked it up another level.

hey randy, thanx for checkin' in.
i guess you didn't read through the whole thread, we were lookin' for you earlier to help us decide if the killer(super) prefix changes the triple co-dom status of any triple to a quad. for instance. if a bumble bee mojave is a triple, is a killer bee mojave considered a quad ?
thanx in advance for your input,
ck

I think we are making a lot of this up as we go along so I guess it comes down to how most want to count. I would tend to count by the number of distinct mutant genes regardless of if they have one or two copies of each of those mutations. For example, I wouldn't count a super pastel as a double since it only has one gene location with a mutation, it just happens to have two mutant copies at that one gene location. But it's certainly better than just having one copy so deserves some credit so I don't know. Also, what about combos of different mutations of the same gene? Is a karma (lesser + phantom) a double even though it can only give one or the other to each offspring unlike say a bumblebee which can give both to the same offspring?

I think we are making a lot of this up as we go along so I guess it comes down to how most want to count. I would tend to count by the number of distinct mutant genes regardless of if they have one or two copies of each of those mutations. For example, I wouldn't count a super pastel as a double since it only has one gene location with a mutation, it just happens to have two mutant copies at that one gene location. But it's certainly better than just having one copy so deserves some credit so I don't know. Also, what about combos of different mutations of the same gene? Is a karma (lesser + phantom) a double even though it can only give one or the other to each offspring unlike say a bumblebee which can give both to the same offspring?

thanx for getting back randy, so you're saying the it's open to interpretation, we'll never have a conclusive answer, and we may as well all go home and grease wheezer ?
ck

Yep, that's my take on it. I don't think "triple" is an established genetics term with an agreed right and wrong definition. Sort of like "super".

For me it has to be this one. Desert, enchi, pin. Amazing, blue eyed, clean as hell and rare. I'll have one of these one day!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a120/woodage/edesertpinball8-083.jpg

Damn. That desert enchi pin is HOT! I really gotta get me some desert.

I think we are making a lot of this up as we go along so I guess it comes down to how most want to count. I would tend to count by the number of distinct mutant genes regardless of if they have one or two copies of each of those mutations. For example, I wouldn't count a super pastel as a double since it only has one gene location with a mutation, it just happens to have two mutant copies at that one gene location. But it's certainly better than just having one copy so deserves some credit so I don't know. Also, what about combos of different mutations of the same gene? Is a karma (lesser + phantom) a double even though it can only give one or the other to each offspring unlike say a bumblebee which can give both to the same offspring?

Thanks Randy. That was my take on it as well.

Soul Sucker or inferno

Soul Sucker or inferno

Ahh, good one Kevin! I love the infernos, now to find the hidden genes!

Ahh, good one Kevin! I love the infernos, now to find the hidden genes!

Fire-Granite-yellowbelly-hidden gene woma

At least thats what Kevin said

Fire-Granite-yellowbelly-hidden gene woma

At least thats what Kevin said

Haha, I know the ingredients, I meant to find a hidden gene woma... without selling your soul.:lol:

Hands down, Queen Bee.

But... I've never seen that desert enchi pin... It's probably #2. Hottness!

I want to make a Pied Bee and a Pied Pewter.

is there a visiable trate to tell if a woma carries the hidden gene?
Kevin Stoltz

Pewter bee! I get all weak-kneed when I see just a regular pewter so a pewter bee to me is just the ultimate combo of my two favorite morphs (ok three really but y'know) pewter (pastel cinny) and spider!

Hey Larry, I thought the inferno was a Pastel x Yellowbelly x Woma? I thought that is what Kevin said on your show.

For me it has to be this one. Desert, enchi, pin. Amazing, blue eyed, clean as hell and rare. I'll have one of these one day!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a120/woodage/edesertpinball8-083.jpg

I'm for this smoker!!! Now I need to find me a Desert :yessir:

I'm for this smoker!!! Now I need to find me a Desert :yessir:

that does seem like the hot new "incredible potential gene" of the future...
i'm likin' it too,
ck

I think the best is a killer bee axanthic. I know it is not a triple co-dom, but visually it is the hottest thing I have ever seen a picture of. Can't wait to see one in person. My goal is to breed one up. Will probably have to take a second mortgage on the house to buy one though!! I know the price is through the roof right now.

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/available/data/45/1760bee1-large.jpg

I heard inferno was Pastel X Yellow Belly X Woma X Fire...
Kevin Stoltz

www.kmsreptiles.com

I heard inferno was Pastel X Yellow Belly X Woma X Fire...
Kevin Stoltz

www.kmsreptiles.com

hey if that's all it is ...doe's anybody have a woma fire girl i can put my yb pastel on ? !
ck

I am not sure if its been done yet but I would love a pin X superpastel X Orange Ghost