Some quotes from General Robert E. Lee

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Definition of a Gentleman -

"The forbearing use of power does not only form a touchstone, but the manner in which an individual enjoys certain advantages over others is a test of a true gentleman.

The power which the strong have over the weak, the employer over the employed, the educated over the unlettered, the experienced over the confiding, even the clever over the silly -- the forbearing or inoffensive use of all this power or authority, or a total abstinence from it when the case admits it, will show the gentleman in a plain light.

The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He cannot only forgive, he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which impart sufficient strength to let the past be but the past. A true man of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others."
Robert E. Lee

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"I am nothing but a poor sinner, trusting in Christ alone for salvation."
Robert E. Lee

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"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union as established by our forefathers should be preserved and that the government as originally organized should be administered in purity and truth."
Robert E. Lee

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General Lee was asked to lead The north. If he had would he still have been a great man ?

UM YA! We Northerners are AWESOME! :D

i think he would have been a great man if he lead the north or the south. he was a good general altogether besides the surrendering part. i myself would have died with my men fighting for what i believed in before i would have surrendered. anyone can make a good general but only a true general will stand by his mens side,fight, and die with them for the same purpose his troops were sent to die for.

i myself would have died with my men fighting for what i believed in before i would have surrendered.I think he knew his men would keep fighting. But the war was unwinable. It would only cause more pain and suffering to continue. Dying is sometimes the easy way out. It takes a great man to shoulder the burden of surrender.

I think he knew his men would keep fighting. But the war was unwinable. It would only cause more pain and suffering to continue. Dying is sometimes the easy way out. It takes a great man to shoulder the burden of surrender.

i do agree with that but i dont think i could shoulder it not only knowing i surrendered even though it was probably the best thing to do to save what few lives were left but the burden of knowing i sent 1000,s of young men to there graves and i was still alive knowing i should have died by there sides in battle. dying may sometimes but the easy way out but in this case the loyalty of dying with my men would have been better. there are no wars/battles won, everyone loses in some way regardless and with one war/battle ending only opens the door to another beginning.

SOme good quotes there!

i myself would have died with my men fighting for what i believed in before i would have surrendered. anyone can make a good general but only a true general will stand by his mens side,fight, and die with them for the same purpose his troops were sent to die for.

And this is why he was a general and we are not..... He looked further into the future than right now. Just because a man surrenders does not make him a coward or unloyal... there are reasons to live for another day such as when the south will rise again....... it will need a leader....

Just my opinion....

Just because a man surrenders does not make him a coward or unloyal... there are reasons to live for another day such as when the south will rise again....... it will need a leader....

Just my opinion....

Good Point Nor, Very good point! However I don't feel that we will seperate Country wise again. We are at the point were UNITED will will stand and Fight! We have no choice now. .....Thanks Bush you ****

I think he knew his men would keep fighting. But the war was unwinable. It would only cause more pain and suffering to continue. Dying is sometimes the easy way out. It takes a great man to shoulder the burden of surrender.

eloquently put buckaroo,
there is the element of "live to die another day" which also requires reflection when faced with certain defeat.
for what good is any soul to any cause if that soul would walk knowingly into certain defeat and be rendered unable to take up arms again on it's behalf.
ck

eloquently put buckaroo,
there is the element of "live to die another day" which also requires reflection when faced with certain defeat.
for what good is any soul to any cause if that soul would walk knowingly into certain defeat and be rendered unable to take up arms again on it's behalf.
ck

And that ck, is what I was trying to say! Thank you my wordsmith brother! :yessir:

And that ck, is what I was trying to say! Thank you my wordsmith brother! :yessir:

you did say it.
i read yours after i posted mine.
got a habit of readin' and replyin' , instead of readin' through the whole thread first. sometimes i say stuff that's aleady been said later on in the thread...not meant to be a doofis and repeat crap to death, just a flaw in my circuitry !
glad you like the way my sentiment came out, i think your reply involved aspects regarding his loyalty that i missed in mine. either way good post brada.
ck

Maybe this quote gives a little insight to the surrender.

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General Robert E Lee addressing the Governor Stockdale of Texas 1870

"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me. Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand"
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how about a quotes from our great general larry

how about a quotes from our great general larry

Yeaaaaahhhhhh boooyyyyeeeeeeeeee

Well, hes not going to quote himself, so it is upto you to quote him!

Norsims, You and all the other veterans here know far better than I the responsibility of leadership and the price paid in leading. You all have my utmost respect and gratitude.
Gen Lee to take responsibility for the surrender must have been the hardest thing a soldier would have to do.

Norsims, You and all the other veterans here know far better than I the responsibility of leadership and the price paid in leading. You all have my utmost respect and gratitude.
Gen Lee to take responsibility for the surrender must have been the hardest thing a soldier would have to do.

Exactly my same thoughts Buck...General Lee was one of greatest Generals as far as I'm concerned. :yessir:

Exactly my same thoughts Buck...General Lee was one of greatest Generals as far as I'm concerned. :yessir:

Yessir

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"We could have pursued no other course without dishonor; and as sad as the results have been, if it had all to be done over again, we should be compelled to act in precisely the same manner."
Robert E. Lee 1867

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Good stuff Larry!

how about a quotes from our great general larry

'Who wants a mustache ride?'
Larry Suttles 2008

Good stuff Larry!



'Who wants a mustache ride?'
Larry Suttles 2008

i like that one

Yeaaaaahhhhhh boooyyyyeeeeeeeeee

i like this one to

Maybe this quote gives a little insight to the surrender.

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General Robert E Lee addressing the Governor Stockdale of Texas 1870

"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me. Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand"
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i have never seen that quote before, and that does shed some light on things imo, and hes basically saying that if he knew how the turn out would have been before he surrendered he would have never surrendered and died with his men as a true general would. what he did was thought to be in the best interest of many only to find out later it wasnt. i still see him as one of the greatest if not the greatest of generals regardless of the outcome of the decisions made. i am just saying i dont think i myself could have carried the burden that he did with having to surrender and losing all of those young men at war. i would have had to die fighting with them instead of knowing i would have to carry such burden on my shoulders.

Norsims, You and all the other veterans here know far better than I the responsibility of leadership and the price paid in leading. You all have my utmost respect and gratitude.
Gen Lee to take responsibility for the surrender must have been the hardest thing a soldier would have to do.
Not to bring this thread down but to bring a little reality I can tell you what its like to send men into battle... and have them die. It is a great burden on your soul when an order you gave causes someone to lose their life. Its a burden I will carry with me forever. Buck and I have talked at length about this subject on the road trips to reptile shows. I wont share any details here but I lost 7 soldiers in my deployments. It felt like losing a child every time. I couldnt imagine what a man like GEN Lee felt like sending thousands of men into battle and losing them..... Its lonely at the top ladies and gentlemen... very lonely....

Love the quotes and unless we walk in that persons shoes general or not who are we to say how and what he or she shoulda coulda done in that terrible time in our country

Love the quotes and unless we walk in that persons shoes general or not who are we to say how and what he or she shoulda coulda done in that terrible time in our country

you're right, it easy for some of us to pass judgement when we werent there in that day and time to see the actions taken and why they were taken the way they were. i am not passing judgement on hi for he done what he thought at the time was the right thing to do. my statement is that i dont think i could have taken that route because i myself couldnt carry such burdens he had to. i would have rather died with my men than have to carry such harsh burdens that he had to carry. to take a life of lose a life is hard burden on anyone but 1000's of people at once is a death sentence to one person. the burden i feel would be to much for one person to tolerate or handle.

you're right, it easy for some of us to pass judgement when we werent there in that day and time to see the actions taken and why they were taken the way they were. i am not passing judgement on hi for he done what he thought at the time was the right thing to do. my statement is that i dont think i could have taken that route because i myself couldnt carry such burdens he had to. i would have rather died with my men than have to carry such harsh burdens that he had to carry. to take a life of lose a life is hard burden on anyone but 1000's of people at once is a death sentence to one person. the burden i feel would be to much for one person to tolerate or handle.
And why they were the generals of that time but what a burden for them and the ones of today...No matter what action to send a man to battle must be a burden on them all and not a position I could ever do

Check this out..... He wasnt a GEN at the time but he was a LT GEN (3 Star) when he retired.... In my opinion of the great Generals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtPoCtbEyog

Check this out..... He wasnt a GEN at the time but he was a LT GEN (3 Star) when he retired.... In my opinion of the great Generals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtPoCtbEyog

I agree very good General :yessir: and one of my Fav movies...A lady that goes to our church her son fault in that same exact battle....Last name was Davis...Can't remeber his first name right now. But he was killed in that battle. You can see the list of names at the end of the Movie. I recommend anyone who hasn't seen it to watch it.