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Crazyglue12345
05-05-2011, 07:17 PM
Are there ways to tell if a snake is het for something?

Dan W
05-05-2011, 07:35 PM
Usually the only way to tell is to breed it. Thats why immature snakes are often sold as 50% het or 66% het.

Dan

ARpythons
05-05-2011, 10:28 PM
no not really unless you count things like het reds or het ivories.

Crazyglue12345
05-06-2011, 07:26 PM
ok thanks guys

vlervatron
05-07-2011, 09:03 PM
Usually the only way to tell is to breed it. Thats why immature snakes are often sold as 50% het or 66% het.

Dan

Unless you know its a 100% het. Like when you breed a visual Albino to a normal, they will all be 100% het for Albino. 50% hets come from breeding a 100% het to a normal, or any snake that is not het for that trait. 66%Er's are a product from breeding 100% hets together. :yes:

Crazyglue12345
05-09-2011, 08:21 PM
Oh ok

joe23
05-10-2011, 01:01 PM
actually everything importend was said before. u only know for sure if its a het if u a) bred it and proved it out, or b) u produced it yourself.

u can be 99,9% sure if u buy a het from a trustworthly breeder, but even they make mistakes-

sorry for going a bit off topic but heres the perfect example:

the first hypo green burms were produced last week. the breeder bought a hypo het albino and bred it to a green (expecting to get hypo het green 50% het albino). but he got hypo greens from it. that basically meens that the seller made a mistake- which in this case ended good, but normally its really bad when u order a het albino and get a het green...lol



read a bit more about genetics (recessiv, dominant and co dominant or correctly called incomplete dominant) and after a while u can answer the most questions u probably have threw that...

Crazyglue12345
05-22-2011, 01:20 PM
Ok do you happen to have a good source explaining dominant and co dominant?

joe23
05-23-2011, 10:27 AM
Ok do you happen to have a good source explaining dominant and co dominant?


its not so hard, so ill give it a shot:


basically ull have to realise that all the forms have heterozygous and homozygous forms.

in recessiv morphs the hets are not visible (look like normals). only the homozygous (or super) form is visual different in the phenotype.


dominant morphs (like spiders, pinstripes, womas etc) are in both forms visible and look a like. the only way to find out if a spider is homozygous is to breed it. if uve a homo. spider it will only produce 100% spider (or spider combos) no matter what u decide to breed it too.

the het form looks still like a spider but produces only 50% spiders (on average) when u breed him to no matter what.


now for the co dom.

co dom is basically the same as dom- just one difference. the homo or superform is visual different.

best example is the lesser. the lesser is the het form. the blue eyed lucy is his super (homo) form.


breed a lesser to a normal and ull get 50% lessers. breed a lucy (homozygous) to a normal and ull get 100% lessers.


now- if u breed a homozygous to a het, ull get 50% het and 50% homo forms.

for example pastel- breed a pastel to a super pastel and ull get 50% pastels and 50% super pastels.



thats basically it for the start. if u realise this, ull notice that therere some morphs which are in the same komplex (for example the BEL, the BlEL, and superstripe), and some hidden genes in some morphs but thats a bit difficult sometime even for the ones that know genes a bit...


if uve any questions, just ask and maybe ill can help u out.

if u dont understand me correct, just say something and ill try to get asplundii to chime in- hes the BLBC's gen genius...lol

Crazyglue12345
05-27-2011, 07:33 PM
Oh ok i think im starting to understand...Thanks