View Full Version : Mocha's?


lbratcher4
07-10-2011, 03:04 PM
Can someone please describe what traits make a mocha a mocha?

I hatched out some hogs that to me look similar to pics I have seen of mocha's but I am not sure what I would be looking for to know if they are mocha's. Thank you.

GregBennett
07-10-2011, 07:41 PM
I can't help with the mocha thing but post up some pictures of yours.

lbratcher4
07-10-2011, 09:44 PM
Here are pics of one of the babies. I am sure they are just normals the only reason I even question them is the belly pattern with the black going a little up the sides. The clutch I got last year from her didn't have this at all on any babies (I even double checked them as I held back all but one male) and this clutch had several.

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1650.jpg

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1651.jpg

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1652.jpg

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1653.jpg

Gregg M
07-10-2011, 10:14 PM
The dorsal patterning looks pretty normal and does not look like a mocha... That belly pattern is really cool... Hognose snake belly pattterns are pretty variable and can be very different even between clutch mates... A couple of my het albinos I produced last season had a belly patterns similar to yours but not quite that cool...

adrianbryce
07-10-2011, 10:49 PM
so what exactly is the pattern differentiation?

BerlinHogs
07-10-2011, 11:17 PM
The dorsal patterning looks pretty normal and does not look like a mocha... That belly pattern is really cool... Hognose snake belly pattterns are pretty variable and can be very different even between clutch mates... A couple of my het albinos I produced last season had a belly patterns similar to yours but not quite that cool...

Sorry, but I think the same like Gregg

Here you will find a description of the mocha (at least this, what I have found at our specimen)

http://reptilesbreedingenterprise.com/mocha.html

http://reptilesbreedingenterprise.com/resources/Mocha_1.jpg

Dan W
07-11-2011, 06:35 AM
That Mocha is gorgeous.

Dan

lbratcher4
07-11-2011, 02:31 PM
Oh well thank you guys. They may not be mocha's but I really like the color and pattern of this clutch. Here is another clutch mate.

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1654.jpg

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1656.jpg

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1658.jpg

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1657.jpg

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv284/lbratcher4/western%20hognose/possible%20mocha/IMG_1655.jpg

BerlinHogs
07-12-2011, 01:31 AM
maybe Louie will look around and can giff you some more informations
I like the round pattern of yours...think it will be worth to dink around a bit

That Mocha is gorgeous.

Dan

thank you!