Maybe this is a dumb????...My wife asked me it and it had me wondering as well.....I'm new to breeding snakes so I'm not sure as to the answer exactly.....I'm sure this ain't the first time it's been asked either (lol)

You hear of different guys claiming that they are breeding some females to several different males and using the phrase.."It's gonna be who's your daddy" on what comes out of the clutch. I have two questions on this

My first question is...Say you breed a normal female to a pastel male and a spider male...is it possible to have normal and pastel and spider babies hatch out in the same clutch?? I know you wouldn't be able to get bees duh!!! To it wouldn't happen everytime either... I just know it happens from time to time with other animals like cats,dogs, and even cattle..I've seen it happen with cattle myself living on a farm.

Second question is has anyone had it happen to them??? With any reptiles even???

Thanks

I think the answer is yes, but never happened to me. I am not in the habit of throwing multiple males in with a female.

Yes -- I backed up my co-dom males with other co-dom males last season and most of my clutches had babies from both fathers.

Here's one that was a normal female x pin and cinni males

http://jetpythons.com/IMG_6624.JPG

That's so cool Tosha...Thanks for sharing the picture :yourock:

How close where the males put in with the female??? Curious??

Tosha, how close together did you breed the males to the same female?

Unfortunately I'm not much for keeping breeding records so I'm probably not the go to guy on the technical stuff -- with only a dozen females that I was breeding I pretty much guestimated at a somewhat regular interval (each male maybe 2 x a month) As far as how close together -- one male this week one male the next week kinda deal. Some clutches were mixed some were first one in and some were last one in.

Nice pic Tosha and good info. :rockon:

Very cool Tosha!! I have been doing this with a couple of my girls.. I put my pin in then the blk pastel the next week.. I hope I have good luck with it like you did..

Alan

Unfortunately I'm not much for keeping breeding records so I'm probably not the go to guy on the technical stuff -- with only a dozen females that I was breeding I pretty much guestimated at a somewhat regular interval (each male maybe 2 x a month) As far as how close together -- one male this week one male the next week kinda deal. Some clutches were mixed some were first one in and some were last one in.

Cool, I was hitting them up maybe a few days apart.... didn't get any mixed clutches though.

Yea Tosha nice pics and good info.. Now go buys some of those high tech index cards...:lol:

Yea Tosha nice pics and good info.. Now go buys some of those high tech index cards...:lol:

You know I put together a set of really nice breeding cards last season that I hung on the wall and never used them - I also had a white board to keep track of the males time in and out and stopped using that after the first month. I did manage to scribble on a sticker everyones ovulation date and when they'd shed and lay. So I figured stickers would work this season for breedings - half way through I realized I hadn't been marking down locks --thankfully my season has sucked so much that I haven't missed a whole lot. :yessir:

I use a steno pad....After a few years of writing on the front of the tubs...
Kevin Stoltz

What about that dream clutch Brock Wagner had this past season? Pastel champagnes, and queen bees in ONE CLUTCH!

In the VPI book they mentioned that generally clutches are sired by the first male that actually locked up with a female. Cases in which multiple males sired one clutch occurred when the males were thrown together right after another during the beginning of the breeding season.

What about that dream clutch Brock Wagner had this past season? Pastel champagnes, and queen bees in ONE CLUTCH!

In the VPI book they mentioned that generally clutches are sired by the first male that actually locked up with a female. Cases in which multiple males sired one clutch occurred when the males were thrown together right after another during the beginning of the breeding season.


That quotes been stuck up on KS a time or two and there is always a bunch of people that have proven that to be incorrect.

Yeah, I got the impression that your results were quite different from what the book said. The book is pretty amazing, but my one fault with it is that they tend to give off the impression that "this is the way things are" when there's very little scientific evidence to back it up.

What about that dream clutch Brock Wagner had this past season? Pastel champagnes, and queen bees in ONE CLUTCH!

In the VPI book they mentioned that generally clutches are sired by the first male that actually locked up with a female. Cases in which multiple males sired one clutch occurred when the males were thrown together right after another during the beginning of the breeding season.

You know I was talking to Brock about this very same thing...Brock said he throws in the 2nd male when the follicles are around 25 mm's...Follicles that size are pretty well developed...

Last year I bred a Mojave to a female around 5 - 6 times...The last time she was bred was by a Lesser (the only time a Lesser bred her)...5 slugs (sucked) and 1 good...The 1 good was a Lesser...

Who knows but it makes for an exciting wait...:yessir:

I have done it two years in a row with multiple fathers. Last year I put a Mojave male with a normal female one month and then put an enchi male on the same female the next month. The following month she ovulated and when the eggs hatched I ended up with one of each.