We picked this girl (at least we think it's a girl) at the recent Hamburg Show. They were selling her as a Pastel Sav, but we do not know or care if it is genetic. We had a sav that passed away and had been wanting to get another. This one was well started and was prettier than most savs out there, so we bought her. For right now, she is a pet and we do not have any immediate plans for breeding her (but things change, who knows).

We took her to a demo we did for some scouts, and took some pics while she was outside. We were hoping to capture how yellow she really is, but the pics still don't do her justice. I think we need to take a couple of pics against a black background. Anyways here are a few pics.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad224/ghost5967/Lizards/IMG_0953.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad224/ghost5967/Lizards/IMG_0952.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad224/ghost5967/Lizards/IMG_0951.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad224/ghost5967/Lizards/IMG_0950.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad224/ghost5967/Lizards/IMG_0949.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad224/ghost5967/Lizards/IMG_0948.jpg

I'm not as up on Savs as I used to be, but to my knowledge CB pastels haven't been done yet. She? IS a very pretty light color. I have seen babies with other colors, shades of blues, greens and reds but as far as I know they all browned out with age. She's a KEEPER regardless. :yes:

Very nice, you might have better luck showing that color if you get some shots in the shade so the glare doesn't kill the color hues..... Sav's are cool monitors, like mini dinosaurs!

Beautiful sav! Love the lightness.

She is gorgeous. I have never seen one like it.

Dan

great looking monitor

Very nice!, Savannah was my first monitor...I would find what sex it is and get another one and see if she/he proves out!

Would love to have one!!! Congrats :yes:

she is really light that's for sure! good pick up!

Pitoon

She's very pretty, congrats! :) ~

Congrats..

How old was the other one when it passed? any idea why? what do you feed?

Thanks in advance.

(P.S.) I am not going to go off on you like the guys at kingsnake do, I just want to be as helpful as I can. ;)

Congrats.

(P.S.) I am not going to go off on you like the guys at kingsnake do, I just want to be as helpful as I can. ;)



:yes: :cheers:

Thanks quig.. Those guys know their stuff, and anyone would do well to listen, but they are self righteous blowhards that talk down on others like we are inferior to them.

Yet they still insist on feeding an insectivore mice?? I don't get it.

Thanks quig.. Those guys know their stuff, and anyone would do well to listen, but they are self righteous blowhards that talk down on others like we are inferior to them.

Yet they still insist on feeding an insectivore mice?? I don't get it.

I hung out in the monitor forum there for a while. There ARE some pretty self righteous guys in there.

I gave up fighting the rodent debate when Retes said "feed them nails if they are kept warm enough"

They talk down on Daniel Bennett, and not a one of them can ever say they opened up the bellies of 200 (I heard from a leather processing facility) and examined the contents.

They simply do not eat mice.

Arthropods (bugs), worms, slugs, snails and grubs is what they eat.

Chomper has lasted 5 years, is perfect weight, strong as an ox and he eats what nature intended him to eat.

I will admit, he gets conditions that many could not replicate, but I can offer it, I'd be foolish not to give it.

They simply do not eat mice.

Arthropods (bugs), worms, slugs, snails and grubs is what they eat.

Chomper has lasted 5 years, is perfect weight, strong as an ox and he eats what nature intended him to eat.

I will admit, he gets conditions that many could not replicate, but I can offer it, I'd be foolish not to give it.

It's only right to the animal to treat it as it needs to be treated to thrive.
It's why I don't own one yet. Some day though :yes: :cheers:

Get ready for huge food bills. To fill the Arthropod needs, I give him a lot of shrimp, Raw unpeeled jumbos, and they are not cheap.

I have a dubia colony, and night crawlers are free in the summer, so that offsets things a bit.

Get ready for huge food bills. To fill the Arthropod needs, I give him a lot of shrimp, Raw unpeeled jumbos, and they are not cheap.

I have a dubia colony, and night crawlers are free in the summer, so that offsets things a bit.

No, shrimp are not cheap. I was eye ballin' some at the local grocers the other day to eat, (I like shrimp :D). I had to pass though. :eek:

My dubia colony, on the other hand, made a great comeback :yes:

Have an Aldi nearby Quig?

$5 a pound there.

We feed frozen thawed rodents, eggs, and chicken hearts and gizzards. We try not to feed him our fingers, he is a voracious eater, when he is hungry, which seems to be all the time.

Have an Aldi nearby Quig?

$5 a pound there.

Aldi? What's Aldi? :lmao:

It's actually not much more than that here. I've just got more necessary things to spend money on at the moment. :yes:

We feed frozen thawed rodents, eggs, and chicken hearts and gizzards. We try not to feed him our fingers, he is a voracious eater, when he is hungry, which seems to be all the time.

So how old was your last monitor, Please?

And who told you that diet was a good one :(

The physiology of Savs is specifically engineered by nature to digest invertebrates.

http://savannahmonitor.org/feeding/diet/

The feeding of rodents to a Savannah Monitor is an increasingly controversial topic, centered around both profit motive and a profound lack of knowledge. No one is sure the origins of the idea to feed mammals to an invertebrate feeder, but it’s evident today that the few loud, dominant proponents of an all-rodent feeding regimen actually own lucrative frozen rodent feeder businesses. It would be worth it to maintain a healthy skepticism when receiving any information on this monitor, before determining just who has what financial stake in the purchases you are making for your reptile.

As Bennett observed and was quoted as saying in the introduction to this section, the Savannah Monitor is an invertebrate feeder and had fed on mammals with a frequency of less than .2%. If the animal feeds primarily on insects and mollusks in the wild, why feed it anything else in captivity?

The first argument is that keepers in captivity have a great opportunity to offer food items to the monitor that are “nutritionally superior”, an opportunity to give the monitor variety it doesn’t have in the wild. It is argued that rodents are part of this nutritionally superior feeding plan.

The truth is nothing but the opposite. It doesn’t take a zoology degree to take a quick look at our “success” in captive care of the Savannah Monitor and see a long string of obesity, subsequent health problems and causes of death related to feeding monitors a diet incredibly high in fat. If this rodent-based feeding plan is supposed to be superior, are we really doing all that well? Compare the lean body structure and limb strength of any wild Savannah Monitor with a tubby, fat-bodied, stick-legged captive, and it will be more than evident that something in the food/metabolic cycle is severely off.

The second argument is that the Savannah Monitor only eats insects and mollusks due to low availability of rodents in the wild.

On the contrary, rodents and many other prey are plentiful in the regions in which the monitor inhabits, and the senses of the Savannah Monitor are acute in that a quick flick of the tongue and the monitor would know exactly what sort of animal is at the bottom of the burrow it is peeking into.

As has already been said, the Savannah Monitor is simply a specialized feeder, unlike the majority of other monitors. It eats what is best for it, and what its body has adapted to eat, namely insects and mollusks.

We weren't sure how old or exactly what happened to our last monitor. He was given up to us, from a customer, when we had a pet store. He was with a friend, when we moved, who was using him for educational seminars. He came home one day and he was dead, no idea why.

As is mentioned in your link, for some reason rodents have been considered ok for these guys, and all sources we had checked were from this same school of thought. We thought it made sense because when they get larger, it is next to impossible to provide them with enough crickets or roaches to satisfy them. We are not opposed to trying something else, and are not so closed minded to think that our way is right. We only want the best for Quinn. We'll give the shrimp and mollusks a shot. And we were talking about picking up some night crawlers, we were just concerned that the ones you get from a bait store may be in a substrate that may not be safe for the sav. We'll give the new diet a try and let you know.

Thank you for not coming at me barrels blazing... I appreciate open minds.

Of all the web sites I have read, That sav.org is the best, and they preach the gospel of Mr. Bennett.

The best darn book money can buy...

http://www.reptard.info/sav/book.jpg

Though Infernalis and I may disagree on the rodent issue and exanthematicus, it is best to offer whole prey of whatever you feed your monitor. Parts do not offer all that is needed. It's fine for a treat, but definitely not a staple.
The savannah is gorgeous. They seller may have blown a little smoke calling it pastel, but either way you got an amazing specimen.

Though Infernalis and I may disagree on the rodent issue and exanthematicus, it is best to offer whole prey of whatever you feed your monitor. Parts do not offer all that is needed. It's fine for a treat, but definitely not a staple.
The savannah is gorgeous. They seller may have blown a little smoke calling it pastel, but either way you got an amazing specimen.

Pastel or not, we were looking for another sav and this one was different from what most of the ones you see.

Yes it is, that is one very handsome animal.

Of course, I'm fond of all of them.