hey folks, just a couple piccys here of my wee pair of gopher snakes and then i think thats me got pics up of everything, well. representatives of everything, too many housies to photograph

anyways:
Both are CB08 66% poss het for albino (no idea what strain) annectens
Male:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/dragon_breeder/P1000433.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/dragon_breeder/P1000427.jpg

Female:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/dragon_breeder/P1000419.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/dragon_breeder/P1000412.jpg

together:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/dragon_breeder/P1000407.jpg

these are very cool snakes to keep and i can see me getting some other morphs, super hypos, stripeds, axanthics, albinos etc :P lol

Pretty snakes. One I have not gotten into yet.

Cool looking gophers :yessir:

Thanks John & Jenea

very nice

Thanks Andrew :D

Cool looking gophers and love the tongue shot

thanks Liz, its amazing what luck and a camera with a shutter that *apparently* moves at a 200th of a second can do haha

They look great!

Cheers Richard, their really cool, the female has only ever done the whole "im a rattlesnake, im deadly and imma get you" routine once and never followed through with it lol

Very nice shots!! The last one is my fav..

Alan

thanks Alan

cheers
Erik

The albino gohpers are one of my favorite albinos. Nice, big albino with a really cool pattern.

They look like Sonoran to me.

You never got the hiss? That is part of the fun with pits is to hear that hiss like a tire deflating!

Nice gophers Bro!

The albino gohpers are one of my favorite albinos. Nice, big albino with a really cool pattern.

They look like Sonoran to me.

excuse my "noob-ness" with Pits, but what exactly is a sonoran, google says they look virtually the same lol

norsmis - they are both really tame, only ever had a tiny little tail rattle, once lol very slight hiss but nothing impressive yet haha

To help explain the different subspecies, check this out:
http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/p.c.catenifer.html

Related or Similar California Snakes
P. c. affinis - Sonoran Gopher Snake
P. c. annectens - San Diego Gopher Snake
P. c. deserticola - Great Basin Gopher Snake
P. c. pumilis - Santa Cruz Island Gopher Snake

To help explain the different subspecies, check this out:
http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/p.c.catenifer.html

Related or Similar California Snakes
P. c. affinis - Sonoran Gopher Snake
P. c. annectens - San Diego Gopher Snake
P. c. deserticola - Great Basin Gopher Snake
P. c. pumilis - Santa Cruz Island Gopher Snake

i still think it looks kinda like an annectens, but hey are very similar

They have been so cross bred in the pet industry, there is no telling. You could have a cross from all the subspecies with a little rat snake thrown in!!!! :lol:

They have been so cross bred in the pet industry, there is no telling. You could have a cross from all the subspecies with a little rat snake thrown in!!!! :lol:

ahhh, lol, who knows then, i know the guy i got them from has annectens and affins, but i dunno lol

excuse my "noob-ness" with Pits, but what exactly is a sonoran, google says they look virtually the same lol

norsmis - they are both really tame, only ever had a tiny little tail rattle, once lol very slight hiss but nothing impressive yet haha


They are very similar, yes. Nor put up a nice link that shows the subtle differences.

Sonorans seem to be the most common and most popular. With the San Diegos second. I havent heard very much about the other guys.

Its almost the same snake. Just look a little different. And Nor help me out here dont the Sonorans get a bit larger than most?

The Sonorans due tend to get slightly larger than the rest. I ahve seen pics of 7 foot sonorans......

They have been so cross bred in the pet industry, there is no telling. You could have a cross from all the subspecies with a little rat snake thrown in!!!! :lol:

Ill have a gopher snake club sandwich, please.

You want a little ratsnake in there?

Ummm, yeah, but put it on the side.

:D

Ill have a gopher snake club sandwich, please.

You want a little ratsnake in there?

Ummm, yeah, but put it on the side.

:D

:lol:

The Sonorans due tend to get slightly larger than the rest. I ahve seen pics of 7 foot sonorans......

I had some pretty big albino gophers. Not 7', but easily 5'. Big fat colorful albinos I really loved those guys.

Ill have a gopher snake club sandwich, please.

You want a little ratsnake in there?

Ummm, yeah, but put it on the side.

:D

LOL :rockon:

Pits are the bomb! I can show you some scars I have from wrangling 7' bulls down in Texas when I was a kid.... man those guys get big... and nasty!

Pits are the bomb! I can show you some scars I have from wrangling 7' bulls down in Texas when I was a kid.... man those guys get big... and nasty!

wooo, the best scars ive got are from hamsters and my mother lmao!!!

how sad is that? haha

wooo, the best scars ive got are from hamsters and my mother lmao!!!

how sad is that? haha

:lol: You gotta start some where!

:lol: You gotta start some where!

house snakes don't leave much of a mark unfortunately haha

but the royal and the pits im fairly confident will eventually get me and away we go

You can count on the pits getting you at least once! It might be a feeding response since your seem to be calm but they will get ya!

You can count on the pits getting you at least once! It might be a feeding response since your seem to be calm but they will get ya!

nah, they dont even strike feed!
their terrible! lol

i was told to expect mad big beats that'd kill me as soon as look at me, but their wee wooses lol

I had a female bull like that but she got me once when she missed her food and got my hand. Took me 15 minutes to pry her off!

I had a female bull like that but she got me once when she missed her food and got my hand. Took me 15 minutes to pry her off!

oooohhh lol

I cant think of 1 pit that I ever owned that wouldnt eat..... thats why I love these guys!

I cant think of 1 pit that I ever owned that wouldnt eat..... thats why I love these guys!

lmao, mine eat pretty well, just dont strike, she lassies in the blue and hoovered 2 fuzzies down haha

Well you definitely have an odd gopher... they are known for their perpetual pissy moods....

Well you definitely have an odd gopher... they are known for their perpetual pissy moods....

lol, hmmmmm, aye a bit different i suppose haha

Are pits popular over there?

becomign increasingly more so yes, theres a big thing on the UK's biggest forum "the pit revolution" as so many have just started buying them, i reckon the morphs coming down in price etc will mean they will start to take over from the corns as their still somethign just a bit out of the ordinary.
bull snakes too, Francesco de phillipo (i think thats his second name) from Italy has started posting pics of his axanthic ivories and blizzard and what not and people are giving it the whole "oooohhhs and aaahs" lol

the bull morphs are awesome in my opinion. Patternless, anxanthic, white sides.... I love them all!

aye the axanthics and ivories i have taken somewhat of a shining to lol

Yeah those are smokin! My favorites are the Stillwater hypos... I have been drooling over these for years!

Those are awesome man :rockon:

wooo, the best scars ive got are from hamsters and my mother lmao!!!

how sad is that? haha

There is nothing wrong with that....my worst bites are from feeders, my hand swells and then you can watch my arms have red lines running all the way up them....:lol:

ooohhh yea ive got a friend who reckons he'll be getting a pair and i'm like "and i'll be having a complimentary hatchling :)" lol

Wow Jeff.... thats some serious reactions bro!

Those are awesome man :rockon:



There is nothing wrong with that....my worst bites are from feeders, my hand swells and then you can watch my arms have red lines running all the way up them....:lol:



wow, thats a fair bad reaction man!

All my pits were pissy. I had gophers, albino gophers, black pines, northern pines, patternless pines and a pair of bullsnakes. About 18 total. Everyone of them, not a friend. Some worse than others.

Never had one that didnt eat. Cant remember one even refusing a meal. The babies are born huge, hungry and pissed off. Ive had baby northerns leap at my face fresh out of the eggs. They eat though.

When I was feeding baby snakes I always spent a little time. Make sure the food was the right size, make sure the snake grabs it, eats it, doesnt puke it up, etc. When it came to the pits especially the pines it was just throw the food in and leave. They will eat it and no way they will throw it up. They dont give back food that easily.

Even the babies will pin a pinkie to the wall with their body while swallowing another one. Psycho snakes. :D

Those are awesome man :rockon:



There is nothing wrong with that....my worst bites are from feeders, my hand swells and then you can watch my arms have red lines running all the way up them....:lol:

Bad reaction indeed.

Worst bites Ive gotten have been from rats and hamsters.

With the exception of one big retic and one big nile.

The snakes are very cool looking. I've learned a lot from the thread. Thanks guys!

Even the babies will pin a pinkie to the wall with their body while swallowing another one. Psycho snakes. :D



lol nice one :D haha

lol nice one :D haha

Its fun to watch.

From what I have read pits developed this technique by following rodents into their burrows. The rodents would scramble to escape. So the snake would use its body to pin the mice to the sides of the burrows while it killed and ate them one at time.

Hardcore.

Psycho snakes. :D

:rockon::rockon::rockon:

Its fun to watch.

From what I have read pits developed this technique by following rodents into their burrows. The rodents would scramble to escape. So the snake would use its body to pin the mice to the sides of the burrows while it killed and ate them one at time.

Hardcore.

Hence the powerful jaws.... I have had many blood blisters from these little spawns of satan.... :machinegun:

Its fun to watch.

From what I have read pits developed this technique by following rodents into their burrows. The rodents would scramble to escape. So the snake would use its body to pin the mice to the sides of the burrows while it killed and ate them one at time.

Hardcore.


thats pretty cool actually, amazing if its true!

thats pretty cool actually, amazing if its true!

Its very true.... hence the name Gopher snakes! They spend most of their time in gopher burrows looking for food.... many animals inhabit these burrows... field mice, wood rats, rabbits.... lots of food!

Its very true.... hence the name Gopher snakes! They spend most of their time in gopher burrows looking for food.... many animals inhabit these burrows... field mice, wood rats, rabbits.... lots of food!

haha, i am really digging these wee snakes!

Enjoy them Bro... they are some of the most interesting and under rated snakes in the hobby!

haha, i am really digging these wee snakes!

Im sure you can tell we like them as well!!!

:D

Im sure you can tell we like them as well!!!

:D


it is becoming somewhat apparent! lol

it is becoming somewhat apparent! lol

Nothing gets past you, mate! LOL!

Nothing gets past you, mate! LOL!

LOL nope, nothing at all :letsparty: