What are those little fellas going for nowa days? I couldnt find any points of reference on KS

I think I've seen them for around $3,500 just don't remember where

Yea they are not as common as I thought they would be by now.

Yea they are not as common as I thought they would be by now.

Nope, if you produce one you tend to want to keep it to work with... lol

And then there is that duckbill cleft pallet issue which I think turned alot of people off.

And then there is that duckbill cleft pallet issue which I think turned alot of people off.

Thats kinda funny cuz thats one reason I like them so much:)

Thats kinda funny cuz thats one reason I like them so much:)

the duck bill aint so bad -- but the turned up twisted faces is a bit of a downer. :cool:

the duck bill aint so bad -- but the turned up twisted faces is a bit of a downer. :cool:

????

How common is the duckbill Tosha if you know.. is it a certian line thing, or is it like the spider wobble, you never can tell when it will pop up?

How common is the duckbill Tosha if you know.. is it a certian line thing, or is it like the spider wobble, you never can tell when it will pop up?

I've heard that the graziani line doesn't throw duckbills, but I honestly find that hard to believe. Can anybody verify this?

Graziniani and I talked about this at his place. They all have the "duck bill" but on some other morphs like certain lines of BEL the head scalation is actually changed. And of course you have stuff like the spider wobble. The word morph is really just a nice way of saying "mutant" isnt it?

I don't know how often it happens as I don't breed them but it does seem to hit quite a few to varying degrees - from very subtle to extremely twisted.

As for Grazianis line -- I don't think it's any different than the others -- my male is from his line and he threw a mild duck-billed cinni last season - so I won't likely be using him if I decide to go after a super - he'll be stuck trying for pewters I guess. :o

I don't know how often it happens as I don't breed them but it does seem to hit quite a few to varying degrees - from very subtle to extremely twisted.

As for Grazianis line -- I don't think it's any different than the others -- my male is from his line and he threw a mild duck-billed cinni last season - so I won't likely be using him if I decide to go after a super - he'll be stuck trying for pewters I guess. :o

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Tosha, how bad are the ones that have the "turned up twisted faces "
I have never seen one that looked that bad.

i think the duck bill just makes them individual

they are my av morph


over here yuh get em for about

£2000

I was going to say that I saw a couple at the end of last year and neither of them had these issues. They were flawless from what I could see. One was priced at $4500 and the other was $5K. But that's here in KC. Everything is higher in the mid-west.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc0X2QdEmGU


ima makeing some cinnabees

there is supercinnies on KS like 3500$