View Full Version : Radiant panel or Ceiling heater for a herp room ?


J-N. Turcotte
10-29-2011, 03:06 PM
I am about to move.

The thing is that it's have a central pushed air system.
It's have a central gaz heating/cooling system for the entire place, not split by room.

My choice, is to close the ventillation in my herp room and let the rack heat it up.
Or install a heater for that room alone. I could just connect a simple oil heater, but I know that I will overfill the room fast as it always happens.

An oil heater use some floor space that could be used elsewhere.

I tought of installing one or two radiant panel (like the ones for the arboral cage), do you think it would be able to heat the room enough.

Or install a ceiling heater, but that would need more renovation.

Since the room will be heated like all other piece, it should not be less that 65F (wich is cooler than what I would probably keep the place).
The room won't be hotter than 80F, just cause I cannot stay in room that are hotter than this for too long. :)

So I have a delta of 15F, that I need to compensate for.
The room is about 10x10, let's say 12 by 12 to be safe.
Meaning, I should need 600W to compensate for this.

The racks will also generate some heat, that will just help me. The problem is that I cannot put the real value of what they do.

Does anyone have ever done this, have any suggestion for me ?
Or may be someone have something better to recommend me ?

quality serpents
10-29-2011, 03:57 PM
It sounds like you have a situation very similar to what I have. I finished half of my garage and turned it into a snake room. I cut a hole in the duct to supply the room with air from the central heat/air system. Then I use a temporary door on the duct so that it is only open when I want it open. I insulated the room very well. I purposely left a large crack under the door leading into the house for some air circulation and heat/cold exchange. For the most part the ambient temp in my snake room is controlled by the various cage heaters in the room (flexwatt, overhead lighting, etc.) Then when I want the room cooler or warmer, I can open the vent, doors into the house, doors into the garage to achieve the temp I want. I do not have any supplemental heat/air. Since I run my house temp between 70-72 F year round, I know all I have to do is open that vent to get the ambient temp in the snake room to equalize with the house. This has worked very well for me.

J-N. Turcotte
10-29-2011, 04:01 PM
So you are heating the room with only the central heat/air system ? it is enough ?

Do you put your central heat system higher and close the other vents (other rooms) in the house ?

quality serpents
10-29-2011, 04:36 PM
So you are heating the room with only the central heat/air system ? it is enough ?

Do you put your central heat system higher and close the other vents (other rooms) in the house ?

Actually the central heat system is closed to the snake room nearly all the time and only used when it's necessary (which isn't often). The majority of the room heat comes from the cage heating/lighting. The central heat/air is just rarely needed. The ambient temp in the room stays around 80-84 daytime and 74-78 nightime WITHOUT the central heat/air. When it gets extra hot or cold outside, then I'll open up the vent for some supplemental heating/cooling.

2kdime
10-29-2011, 04:40 PM
For accurate steady temps

You're going to want to hook up an analog oil filled heater to a Ranco

J-N. Turcotte
10-29-2011, 10:48 PM
For accurate steady temps

You're going to want to hook up an analog oil filled heater to a Ranco

Using an oil filled heater was my first thought but that mean floor space and we all know floor space cost money ! :) !

So my tought went to ceiling heating.
Two options come here, pushed air (just like a electric radiator on the wall) or radiant heat tape.

I prefer the second one since it dry less the room and keep the humidity higher.
Only draw back is the cost and the fact that heat goes up instead of go down.

We all know that floor heating is still probably the best in a herp room, but not feasible in my case.

Wondering if anyone ever tried ceil heating ? or radiant panel in a full room ?

bsharrah
10-30-2011, 10:55 AM
They make RHP's designed for residential and commercial use. We are so use to only seeing them in our cages but that is not their only use. Obviously, you would not use those designed for our cages and would suggest using 220v panels for better efficiency.
You can get more info here: http://www.sshcinc.com

I also have a PDF document which discusses how to determine the size you need and their prices. I don't know how to attach it though. You can shoot me an email if you want me to forward it to you or I can send it to a mod and they can attach it.

Pitoon
01-06-2012, 04:05 AM
i think the oil filled heat would be the easiest and fastest method of heating up your room. Not sure about there in Canada, but here in Europe most all oil filled heaters come with special brackets that you can attach to the wall so you can mount your oil filled heater on the wall to save some floor space.

...if yours didn't come with brackets you can easily make them yourself.

Pitoon

docwade87
01-06-2012, 06:40 PM
Im not too savy when it comes to things like this, but a breeder up the street from me has his snake room heated by two large radiant heat panels controlled by a helix thermostat with a night drop. It seemed to work really well for him and he has been using them for years.

Pitoon
01-08-2012, 10:19 AM
Im not too savy when it comes to things like this, but a breeder up the street from me has his snake room heated by two large radiant heat panels controlled by a helix thermostat with a night drop. It seemed to work really well for him and he has been using them for years.

sounds interesting.....you think you can snag a couple of pics of his set up? i would for sure like to check it out.

Pitoon

docwade87
01-08-2012, 02:46 PM
sounds interesting.....you think you can snag a couple of pics of his set up? i would for sure like to check it out.

Pitoon

sure I will def try and get a few pics from him or see if he wouldn't mind me coming over and snapping a couple

docwade87
01-13-2012, 02:22 PM
I have not forgotten, sorry it has taken a little while. I contacted Greg (richmond constrictors) and he said he would be glad to snap a few pics for y'all to see. So it's just a matter of time and I will post them up.

Pitoon
01-13-2012, 02:28 PM
I have not forgotten, sorry it has taken a little while. I contacted Greg (richmond constrictors) and he said he would be glad to snap a few pics for y'all to see. So it's just a matter of time and I will post them up.

standing by...

Pitoon

98bcobra
01-14-2012, 10:35 AM
What we have done here in Florida for the cold times is buy a Vortex Space heater (at lowe's). Its small cost like $50 and heats the garage very well never drops below 70 in the winter with lows in the 30s and this not even on high heat just the low setting. Has a fan built in that blows heat out when it drops below your setting. You can place just about anywhere as its small and the case never gets hot.

J-N. Turcotte
01-14-2012, 12:09 PM
sure I will def try and get a few pics from him or see if he wouldn't mind me coming over and snapping a couple

I would love to see these. But now the elextric heater is working good.

What we have done here in Florida for the cold times is buy a Vortex Space heater (at lowe's). Its small cost like $50 and heats the garage very well never drops below 70 in the winter with lows in the 30s and this not even on high heat just the low setting. Has a fan built in that blows heat out when it drops below your setting. You can place just about anywhere as its small and the case never gets hot.

You lucky in florida. It is -25C here in montreal today. Got 2 feet of snow yesterday. :D i live it

98bcobra
01-14-2012, 05:25 PM
Oh I didn't see you were in Canada lol. Its a little cold up there. I wish I lived some with actual winter weather though I actually miss the snow.