View Full Version : Did Peta do wrong?
lbratcher4 01-10-2009, 01:14 PM I don't agree with this but I might be alone. Peta got a restraunt to release a lobster back into the ocean. Now couldn't that possibly bring disease and all the problems we in the reptile industry are warned about if we were to release an animal back into the wild? Here is the article.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090110/ap_on_fe_st/odd_liberated_lobster
let me know if I am crazy.
http://http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090110/ap_on_fe_st/odd_liberated_lobster
FloridaHogs 01-10-2009, 01:15 PM You are not crazy, PETA is just full of idiots!
Danny 01-10-2009, 01:17 PM If it were up to PETA nobody would own pets. I don't care for them.
StudentoftheReptile 01-10-2009, 01:35 PM Nope, you're not alone. That was pretty hypocritical of them.
StudentoftheReptile 01-10-2009, 01:49 PM I just emailed them a letter:
I was just reading about your organization so-called "success story" about releasing a 140-yr-old lobster back into the sea. I find this very hypocritical and irresponsible on PETA's part. Releasing into the wild any animal that has been in captivity for any amount of time is not advisable, as that animal could potentially introduce pathogens, diseases and/or parasites foreign to the ecosystem and cause more harm than good.
I find this extremely hypocritical because this is exactly the kind of action PETA routinely accuses all exotic pet owners of doing (a false blanket statement within itself). I am curious why the organization decided to go against its own teachings and what sound scientific evidence that supports its decision. Was the lobster in question tested for any such contaminants before its release? Or did PETA just toss the hapless crustacean back into the deep blue willy-nilly?
Eagerly awaiting your response,
Michael
lbratcher4 01-10-2009, 01:59 PM Thats great, it was very well written (I might have left off the Willy-nilly part but thats me). I doubt you will get a reply from them but keep us posted. Glad I am not the only one that finds this wrong.
Mrs. Sputnik 01-10-2009, 02:00 PM You are not crazy, PETA is just full of idiots!
Idoiots and mortons filled with........................ Peta stinks
StudentoftheReptile 01-10-2009, 02:24 PM I dunno...I usually get responses from them sooner or later. Its normally some recycled statement that does make any more sense the original topic I wrote about.
norsmis 01-10-2009, 02:33 PM Peta has been and always will be a bunch of moronic self righteous nutbags who have nothing better to do than chastise people for eating animals. If it were up to them, they would release all the animals in the zoos across the world... RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE!!!! Could see a lion walking down the street in Manhattan????? If it happened, I hope the first person to come across said lion is a PETA executive..... LUNCH!
lbratcher4 01-10-2009, 02:48 PM We wouldn't have to worry about the lion they would teach it to eat Tofu before releasing it. I know I got that off of the Futurama episode but it was funny.
constrictorkeeper 01-10-2009, 04:06 PM i read that on yahoo today before comin' on here, thought the same thing.
biggest bunch of lefty-fruitcake-nitwits the world has ever known to exist throughout history. ever. did i say ever?...yeah, ever !
i do believe that creature should be revered for it's longevity in some way ( and not just eaten by some fat-walleted-bastard), but the whole " live out it's days in the ocean " decision should have been made on board the boat that hauled it in. at that point peta stepped in, it should have gone to some state of the art aquarium somewhere.
Perpetually Erroneous Theatrical A-holes,
ck
luciddream 01-10-2009, 04:34 PM PETA always does wrong. It doesn't matter what they are up to, it should always be opposed, as they are some of the slimiest weasels mascarading as do gooders.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com
Alicia Holmes 01-10-2009, 04:49 PM Does anyone remember when Peta wanted to use Human Breastmilk in Ice Cream?
Yeah.... Theyre all freakin lunatics.
BryonsBoas 01-10-2009, 05:06 PM Nope, you are not alone. Gotta be one of the dumber things I've seen them do but its likely to take the heat off of upper management getting called out for harming animals.
I wonder how many of them hide their BBQ grills when their PETA friends come over.
lbratcher4 01-10-2009, 05:56 PM I bet if the restraunt owner would have said you can release it. He is $27 a pound and weighs 20lbs that will be $540 for him Peta would have changed their mind.
Varanus99 01-10-2009, 06:01 PM Yup. Peta did wrong. Biggest bunch of hypocritical wackos out there.
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
Warning: Strong language
wolfyhound 01-10-2009, 06:11 PM If PETA picked on fuzzy pet owners the way they do the rest of us, then PETA would not have the following they have.
PETA opposes ANY pets being owned. They've not only killed numerous animals after saying they were taking them to find them good homes, they've also petitioned to euthanize ALL the animals on a sanctuary they took over with lies to a court. The evidance they brought was pictures taken of neglected primates, AFTER they took over the place, and prevented the volunteer workers from feeding or caring for the poor animals!
PETA should ALWAYS be opposed. I hate and loathe PETA.
I bet if the restraunt owner would have said you can release it. He is $27 a pound and weighs 20lbs that will be $540 for him Peta would have changed their mind.
LOL, I think that's what I would have done had it been mine, but I actually think PETA has that kind of money floatin' around. The better idea would have been to donate it to some institution to live out it's life in peace. With the condition that PETA could not have it.
Quig
Passion4Pythons 01-10-2009, 11:43 PM dont get me started on PETA...
my auntie made that mistake while i was in cali...
because i feed harmless poor little animals to snakes...
i was like... ok, would you like me to let all the rats go in your apartment??? cause in the minds of PETA, that would be the humane thing to do...
then i showed her a few videos, and articles...
i dont think she supports PETA anymore
Desert 01-10-2009, 11:51 PM They would take away our KFC if they could. :shock:
The hell. Out of my hot, greasy hands..
JOHNS6068 01-11-2009, 12:35 AM PETA is just full of idiots!
That sums it up pretty nicely :yourock:
147BOAS 01-11-2009, 12:48 AM peta are idiots
Bumblebee Tuna 01-11-2009, 07:54 PM Is this the same PETA???
Authorities in Ahoskie, North Carolina dropped a disturbing bombshell yesterday with the news that they had charged two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) with 31 felony counts of animal cruelty. PETA's Andrew Cook and Adria Hinkle were arrested late Wednesday night after police saw them dump bags containing seven dead puppi More..es and 11 other dead animals in a grocery store's dumpster. Their PETA-owned van, seized by police, contained another 13 animal bodies. Ahoskie's police chief told reporters: "We've been investigating animal cruelty and illegal disposal of dead animals within our city for the last four weeks" -- roughly the same period of time in which our popular PetaKillsAnimals.com website and giant Times Square billboard have been making news.
PETA Norfolk HeadquartersResponding to our website, PETA has claimed that most of the animals it kills are "broken beings" and that: "[W]e refer every healthy, cute, young animal we can to shelters." But the dead animals included a female cat and -- according to a local veterinarian -- her two "very adoptable" kittens. "These were just kittens we were trying to find homes for," he told PETA's hometown Virginian-Pilot. "PETA said they would do that, but these cats never made it out of the county."
PETA's Andrew Cook & Adria HinkleThe animal-control officer responsible for the county where Cook and Hinkle were arrested told the Associated Press that PETA had picked up the animals just a few hours earlier. He added that PETA's employees "told him they were picking up the dogs to take them back to Norfolk where they would find them good homes."
Instead, the animals wound up being treated in a decidedly unethical fashion. This morning the Roanoke-Chowan News-Herald began distributing a grisly photograph showing a police detective in hazmat garb removing a puppy carcass from a garbage bag found in the now-infamous dumpster.
Last night WAVY-TV's coverage in Norfolk included heartbreaking details from the manager of the supermarket whose dumpster became an impromptu pet cemetery. "They just slung the doors [open] and started throwing dogs ... beautiful cats. I saw a [dead] beagle last week that was pregnant ... last week it was 23 or 24 dogs ... it's happened to us nine times ... they drove straight from there, straight here, and disposed of the dogs in 30 seconds."
lbratcher4 01-11-2009, 08:12 PM Its strange I don't find that the least bit shocking. That must be the Ethical treatment part of Peta.
Larry 01-11-2009, 08:16 PM Yeahh Booyee nice quote there bumble...:rockon:
PETA:shootout:
NoahHart 01-11-2009, 08:16 PM http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/NoahCriswell/24aug16-peta-its-whats-for-dinner.jpg
FloridaHogs 01-11-2009, 08:44 PM They are stupid, stupid people. They think any animal that has been owned is a "broken being"....
Laura Fopiano 01-11-2009, 09:01 PM About ten years ago I went to a very swanky event that required formal dress. Those who know me love of anitquities would also know that I love my antique mink fur's, stole's and the coats.
I wore one of my favorite wraps with my ball gown and actually had people that I thought were my friends of at least equal peers threaten to throw paint on me. I was not only indignant, but very angry that someone woudl attempt to destroy a piece of beautiful american history!
Sputnik 01-11-2009, 09:15 PM It's all about their agenda, the animals are just a tool to forward that agenda.... they care not about anyone's rights or any animal.
FloridaHogs 01-11-2009, 09:16 PM Agreed, it is all about agenda, not the animals at all!
StudentoftheReptile 01-24-2009, 11:04 AM A little late, but in case anyone was interested, here is the reply I finally got from PETA about George the lobster.
Thank you for contacting PETA about our successful efforts to get George, a lobster estimated at being approximately 140 years old, released after having spent several days in captivity.
George was released in an area where lobster trapping is prohibited, and his life in the wild is certainly better than the fate that awaited him in captivity: a stressful captivity followed by being boiled to death. For more information, please see http://blog.PETA.org/archives/2009/01/victory_140-yea.php.
Lobsters can suffer from stress associated with confinement, low oxygen levels, and extreme crowding. Additionally, these sea animals do not have autonomic nervous systems that put them into a state of shock when they are harmed. Marine biologists tell us that lobsters may feel every second of pain inflicted upon them before their death. According to Dr. Jaren G. Horsley, an invertebrate zoologist at the National Zoo, lobsters have a “sophisticated nervous system” and feel “a great deal of pain” when cut or cooked alive.
PETA has researched and spoken to countless experts on lobsters; most say that there is no humane way to kill lobsters. Scientists at the Marine Biological Laboratory in Woods Hole, Mass.—who have been studying lobsters for more than 20 years—have found lobsters to be unique and fascinating animals. For example, they’ve found that lobsters use complicated signals to establish social relationships. They can live to be more than 150 years old—if they survive the world’s most devastating predator: humans. For more information about George, please see
For more information about lobsters, see http://www.LobsterLib.com/.
Thanks again for writing.
Sincerely,
Jeff Haines
Correspondence Assistant
PETA Foundation
Sylvias 01-24-2009, 11:47 AM yeah sounds about like a peta response....doesn't adress your email in the least!
I just saw the rest of this thread and am even more disgusted by peta than ever -_- can't even get started....
CeraDigital.com 01-24-2009, 06:47 PM As well as that, the only invertebrates with unique thinking capabilities or pain sensors are cephalopods. They're the only "self-aware" invertebrates....
They're instinct driven and may feel hot/cold... but don't feel "pain" from what we know. It'd be like killing a toaster, or a television set.... about the same as squashing a spider, or scorpion....
Releasing a lobster into a different part of the ocean is dangerous. Even though there are native lobster species, or even the same species in that area, they could be from different areas of the ocean, and have a multitude of different bacteria and algeas found on in those habitats...which may be released along side the lobster into that habitat.
hogboy 01-24-2009, 07:19 PM personally i can't stand PETA, and i don't even eat meat.
Penn and Teller did a good tv show on them, shows them in their true light
Theres a bit of cursing, so be warned -)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0exLa6saV9o
PT 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Eo4KtBJFc&feature=related
PT 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UXjwDqz4gWM&feature=related
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