And getting a bit lighter. Quite the opposite of what some said would happen. She is still keeping that crazy orange color but her head and neck have shed almost completely and the color (or lack there of) under the old shed is just crazy. Her eye color stands out much more now as well. I cant imagine what CBB babies will look like from this girl.

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Looking good. Best of luck on the long road proving her out!

Gregg, this is crazy cool. Good luck raisin' her up and provin' her out :yes:

Looking good. Best of luck on the long road proving her out!

Thank you.
It should not take too long hopefully. Figure she will be ready to breed by late summer. If we do not see any "visuals" first time around, we will be holding back all offspring. It should only take 9 months or so to grow up one of the males to maturity and breed him back to mom.

Gregg, this is crazy cool. Good luck raisin' her up and provin' her out :yes:

Thanks Quig. It gonna be fun working with this project. Not many actual CBB savs at all. So even if it turns out to be nothing, at least there will be a bunch of healthy true CBB savs available on the market.

Thanks Quig. It gonna be fun working with this project. Not many actual CBB savs at all. So even if it turns out to be nothing, at least there will be a bunch of healthy true CBB savs available on the market.

The fact that there are very few(if any) CBB Savs is one of the reasons I want to get into them. I truly don't have the room to do it properly though.

The fact that there are very few(if any) CBB Savs is one of the reasons I want to get into them. I truly don't have the room to do it properly though.

Quig,
If you can offer a space of about 5 X 3, you can house a pair properly. However, they can lay a lot of eggs so housing the hatchlings may be a bit space consuming. I have a feeling you would do well with a pair.

It would be cool to see more people breeding these in captivity. Unfortunately, some folks do not think it is worth the time or cost to breed this species in captivity. Sometimes it really does take a cool color morph to spark interest. Heck, I remember back when ball pythons were commonly kept but no one bothered breeding them because they were super cheap and there were no morphs. Once the morphs started to pop up, the ball market exploded. Same goes for hognose snakes.

Savs are a great varanid for new and experienced keepers. I had forgotten how cool they really are to keep. Its has be years since I have had one.

Quig,
If you can offer a space of about 5 X 3, you can house a pair properly. However, they can lay a lot of eggs so housing the hatchlings may be a bit space consuming. I have a feeling you would do well with a pair.

It would be cool to see more people breeding these in captivity. Unfortunately, some folks do not think it is worth the time or cost to breed this species in captivity. Sometimes it really does take a cool color morph to spark interest. Heck, I remember back when ball pythons were commonly kept but no one bothered breeding them because they were super cheap and there were no morphs. Once the morphs started to pop up, the ball market exploded. Same goes for hognose snakes.

Savs are a great varanid for new and experienced keepers. I had forgotten how cool they really are to keep. Its has be years since I have had one.

Send me a pair of those hets you are about to produce and I'll change my opinion on that.:D

She looks awesome.

Dan

Quig,
If you can offer a space of about 5 X 3, you can house a pair properly. However, they can lay a lot of eggs so housing the hatchlings may be a bit space consuming. I have a feeling you would do well with a pair.

It would be cool to see more people breeding these in captivity. Unfortunately, some folks do not think it is worth the time or cost to breed this species in captivity. Sometimes it really does take a cool color morph to spark interest. Heck, I remember back when ball pythons were commonly kept but no one bothered breeding them because they were super cheap and there were no morphs. Once the morphs started to pop up, the ball market exploded. Same goes for hognose snakes.

Savs are a great varanid for new and experienced keepers. I had forgotten how cool they really are to keep. Its has be years since I have had one.

I've ALWAYS had this kink in my brain for West African reptiles and have wanted savs for literally decades. And I've heard all the negativity about keeping, raising and being able to make ones money back on savs from hangin' in the monitor forum on KS. Gave that place up for Lent :D several years ago. Give me some time to relegate a space and put an enclosure together and maybe we'll talk :D, and I really don't care if it's a morph or not. I just LIKE savs :yes:

Quig,

It would be cool to see more people breeding these in captivity. Unfortunately, some folks do not think it is worth the time or cost to breed this species in captivity. Sometimes it really does take a cool color morph to spark interest. Heck, I remember back when ball pythons were commonly kept but no one bothered breeding them because they were super cheap and there were no morphs. Once the morphs started to pop up, the ball market exploded. Same goes for hognose snakes.


Yes, :yes::rockon: YES!
I like that monitors don't have morphs so much. This separates them from the ones in pursuit of $ alone and not the betterment of the industry/hobby/community. Not knocking morphs, I have some; boa and ball python. Then again most varanida (if kept right) stay dirty all the time.
But at the same time you are right. And being one who is so sick of seeing $15 imported savs and $20 imported niles that will not get the right keeper for them, I agree any method to slow the imports of the common monitors (other than prohibition) is an avenue worth pursuing. Morphs could encourage more captive breeding and as went leopard geckos and BCI, you would have no need for importing wild caught or "farmed" stock. Wild collectors would (in theory) seek morphs, forgo keeping or selling the wild type and release them back.

My main reason for wanting to work with aussie varanids is they are guaranteed captive born and bred. Like the guy I got my Minions from; I hope to offer an alternative to the niles, savannahs and salvators where everyone wins. The buyer gets a better deal and so do the animals. They are the only certain captive produced specimens for private sale.
True, water monitors are bred more in captivity like blackthroats. But they are bred for sulfurs, ionides and specific localities and look. Much like you hope to achieve with this exanthematicus GreggM. And I sincerely hope it works out for you for the sake of all the imported hatchlings that get sold by places like Disposable Pets INC where it NEVER leaves the deli cup unless someone buys it. But then comes the 10 gallon, play sand, hot rock (why do they still make them?) and the screen top.
Don't get me wrong, I love niles. But I would rather adopt one than encourage an importer to get another dying shipment. Like iguanas, there is always one in need of a good keeper. If I can, I would love to have a monitor rescue and fund it through selling aussie goannas. They have special place in my soul and it's the best way I could give back for the joy and wonder they have given me.

Best of luck sir.:yessir:

She does look great..