Ok, I got a couple questions about the super phantoms.

First off I love'em. One of my favorite morphs if not my all time fav. The only place I have seen them is on Ralph's site and videos. Does anyone else even have them or are they an RDR exclusive. Pardon my ignorance but I really dont know.

Now getting to the phantoms themselves. When I see a "phantom" I have a hard time distinquishing it from a normal. I mean yeah it looks a little different. It has a stronger pattern if that makes sense. But is these some characteristic that obviously makes a phantom a phantom?

"Preciate the help. I really dig these guys.

Here is a description of them from NERD's website.

"A very subtle trait, the Phantom is reminiscent of the Mojave morph, but lacks the extensive blushing & pattern irregularities. The homozygous Super Phantom trait must be seen to be believed, and Phantoms also lend their genetic wherewithal to a stunning Blue-Eyed Leucistic form. We're busy at work determining what other fun crosses can be made with Phantoms, and have been very happy watching the Woma Phantom combo grow up."

It reminds me of a Mojave, minus the color....

It reminds me of a Mojave, minus the color....

Yeah thats kinda what I was thinkin.

I know that some people have mystics, which are believed to be another line of phantom but haven't been proven yet. I hope more get out there, super phantoms are about as sweet as anything.

Whats the price tag on super Phantoms?
Kevin

I don't care much for phantoms, but I like the super form. As far as I know NERD and RDR are the only ones with confirmed Phantoms.

love me them supers...
hopin' i've got a w/c import phantom.
time will tell.
ck

Purple Passions from NERD = Super Phantoms....they seem to have their own line and Ralph's line.

I agree with you V and I think they are one of the best supers out there right now! RDR and Pro Exotics(from rdr line) have Phantoms and Kevin has a unrelated line that does the same thing it seems. They have a large price tag and if I had it laying around I would own one. The phantom yellow belly is to die for also.......

The phantom yellow belly is to die for also.......

with 'ya on that.
ck

I'm hoping that this girl proves out. I'm getting her from Kevin. She's one of a few CH's he got last year, and there were three that looked like her, which I think is the only reason he let her go to me. He hemmed and hawwed a long time before he decided he'd let her go.

She should be here once the weather settles down. If nothing else, she'll be a fun dinker!

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A nice dinker for sure just no too sure on being a Phantom........

A nice dinker for sure just no too sure on being a Phantom........

Most likely not - but it's still fun to dream! :)

Robin it's a very nice looking BP either way.

Most likely not - but it's still fun to dream! :)

No doubt, I have a lot of dreamers also.........:lol:

Now getting to the phantoms themselves. When I see a "phantom" I have a hard time distinquishing it from a normal. I mean yeah it looks a little different. It has a stronger pattern if that makes sense. But is these some characteristic that obviously makes a phantom a phantom?

"Preciate the help. I really dig these guys.[/QUOTE]

A couple markers are susposed to be 'hooks' and 'cyclops or 1 eyed ghosts'....like Robin's dinker in this thread . I assume the belly is indicative but I dont know how . Robin must know since she shows belly pix .
congratulations Robin....you never know til you go .
Toni

Now getting to the phantoms themselves. When I see a "phantom" I have a hard time distinquishing it from a normal. I mean yeah it looks a little different. It has a stronger pattern if that makes sense. But is these some characteristic that obviously makes a phantom a phantom?

"Preciate the help. I really dig these guys.

A couple markers are susposed to be 'hooks' and 'cyclops or 1 eyed ghosts'....like Robin's dinker in this thread . I assume the belly is indicative but I dont know how . Robin must know since she shows belly pix .
congratulations Robin....you never know til you go .
Toni[/QUOTE]

They look similar to Mojaves but not as bright or washed out. It takes some practice to start to spot these subtle mutations sometimes.

We have a 2008 ch BEL unknown here ..a male . He is different from the knowns I have seen . Am hoping for a special lesser x phantom outcome ....lol lol
I can dream cant I ?
Toni

Sure. Is that the one David Fernandez had?

Sure. Is that the one David Fernandez had?

Yes . What do you think he might be ? He is similar to the Super Latte but I hope he is different .
Toni

No idea what he is but he is very cool. Nice to know who got it. Be sure to let us know what he produces. What else did you get from him?

No idea what he is but he is very cool. Nice to know who got it. Be sure to let us know what he produces. What else did you get from him?

I got the little ch fem 08 he was going to keep but let go lastly . Did you see her ?
This little male is such a curious boy. He actually likes to be petted on the head and under his throat. He is very outgoing and a good eater too . I thought the blue eyes would be sorta slate colored but his are baby blue .
Yes , I will let you know what he produces . We need to get a couple more normal females with some size on them for him . We want to breed him to normals and see what happens . I am sure I will be asking for help when the time comes to identify them .
Toni

I dont know which female your talking about. You should post her in a thread.

I dont know which female your talking about. You should post her in a thread.

she has some hooks and cyclops and flames...very yellow ..little dot behind her head in the stripe. almost midnight here..gotta get up at 6 am .will try to get some pix posted another day .
she wasnt on his page . he posted her on ks as 'unusual ch fem ' .she caught my eye .
toni

super phantoms are crazy lookin and phil you're right the phantom yb cross is sweet!

I don't care much for phantoms, but I like the super form.



Isn't that like saying "I like pieds,but the hets are just to plain." ? ...:p

I see it as a plus really...At least it can be accurately distinguished (The hets fom the normals.)...To be honest,I was never into the mojos myself..Still don't have one here,but I will have to get a lesser for when it comes time to try for crystals. :D (Actually,I think I may already have some "specials" tucked away.:p)


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Super Phantoms, are one of the best morphs out there. I can watch Ralphs vids over and over..

the supers are very nice indeed but regular phantoms also are nice
(also find it difficult to differentiate between the phantoms & normals though lol)

Guess I need to go watch some vids.....I have not seen them.

That is one nice looking snake robin. I had one that looked similar in my qt rack when I had that unfortunate incident a few months back.. Hope she proves out for you.

Hello im just wondering what do u mean by hooks and cyclops.. coz i have seen this traits one of my mojaves.. thanks