View Full Version : Male to female ratio?


Larry
10-21-2008, 09:22 PM
Just wondering how everybody rotates their males. One male on one female all season or do you rotate the one male through multi females?

:yessir:

JChandler
10-21-2008, 09:24 PM
I have the only one adult pair this season so...:D

147BOAS
10-21-2008, 10:26 PM
atleast two males to one female

BryonsBoas
10-21-2008, 10:29 PM
We only do 1 male per female but are working up to a fall back male per project. Can'y call it selective breeding if your tossing any ol male in if the target one ain't working.

nickstone
10-22-2008, 02:49 PM
Just wondering how everybody rotates their males. One male on one female all season or do you rotate the one male through multi females?

:yessir:

If I had the males to do it I would have at least 1 for each female if not more. I usually pick out which pair I would most like to get a litter from and put them together first. I'll wait and leave that male in with her until he wants nothing to do with her, then he still stays in for a week just to be sure. Then he goes to the next female. I've gotten a male to easily breed 2 females in a season. This season 1 one of my favorite males is out on a date. When he gets home, after he goes through quarentine, he's got another girl lined up for him, if there's time and the females are both good to go, he's got another girl after that.

BryonsBoas
10-22-2008, 03:00 PM
We only do 1 male per female but are working up to a fall back male per project. Can'y call it selective breeding if your tossing any ol male in if the target one ain't working.

I just wanted to add ....

If I have 2 project males going to a female each and 1 male isn't doing anything , then I'll consider tossing the other male in the 2nd girl and shoot for a 2nd litter of the other project. I tend to stick with each project as I lay it out for the season but I'm not opposed to increasing my chances on one project if both aren't looking to happen.

On non project breedings like hypos , I won't , as a rule , just toss a hypo to female just to make babies if another male isn't doing his job. I find myself walking a thin line between hobby breeder & business but in the end , I still have to follow my rules and I'm the one who has to clean up after anything I produce.

I really prefer to not see a project happen than to switch up hitters to make the babies.

Larry
10-23-2008, 07:05 PM
I just wanted to add ....

If I have 2 project males going to a female each and 1 male isn't doing anything , then I'll consider tossing the other male in the 2nd girl and shoot for a 2nd litter of the other project. I tend to stick with each project as I lay it out for the season but I'm not opposed to increasing my chances on one project if both aren't looking to happen.

On non project breedings like hypos , I won't , as a rule , just toss a hypo to female just to make babies if another male isn't doing his job. I find myself walking a thin line between hobby breeder & business but in the end , I still have to follow my rules and I'm the one who has to clean up after anything I produce.

I really prefer to not see a project happen than to switch up hitters to make the babies.

Thats a nice post Bryon. I heard Tracy Barker say the same thing. She is a see the project through type of person in the since that if things don't look to be happening she doesn't jump ship and start throwing animals together just to get babies.

She even said you would probably produce twice as much if she did do that..Pretty cool

BryonsBoas
10-24-2008, 02:03 AM
Its gotta be all about the project. Producing just to produce is why there are so many sub par morphs on the market and hobby breeders dumping prices to move them.

I like seeing what I can do with a project and work at making it sweeter than I started with. It helps that we have a good assortment of projects without jumping into overkill.

Rapture
10-24-2008, 02:49 PM
I think it's interesting how boas differ from ball pythons in this aspect. I've definitely read one male to one female in Russo's book, and I think he said he just leaves the male in there all season?

BryonsBoas
10-26-2008, 02:14 AM
I think it's interesting how boas differ from ball pythons in this aspect. I've definitely read one male to one female in Russo's book, and I think he said he just leaves the male in there all season?

Some of our males take a little time to get the groove on , others only lock or court once a week while others will breed 12 - 20 hours a day every day. Even with our hardcore boys our females range from lets make babies now to lets see whatcha got in stamina.

My very first year breeding I was swapping a male between two females and the results sucked.
Female 1 dropped 12 live , 4 slugs
Female 2 dropped 4 live , 1 stillborn and 30 slugs

Ever since then I refuse to swap males around and since I really got into selective breeding I take it to heart to put more focus on the project itself to get the results I want instead of chancing it just to produce something.

I know a couple guys that move their males from female to female as each female is done but it takes a lot out of some males and the results I've heard of and seen just isn't worth it to me. I know I have a couple boys that would breed themselves to death if I let them since they get so skinny just on one female. Our plans will have us holding back and growing spare males or just picking up unrelated ones for each project instead of wringing out our boys.

147BOAS
10-26-2008, 02:46 AM
Some of our males take a little time to get the groove on , others only lock or court once a week while others will breed 12 - 20 hours a day every day. Even with our hardcore boys our females range from lets make babies now to lets see whatcha got in stamina.

My very first year breeding I was swapping a male between two females and the results sucked.
Female 1 dropped 12 live , 4 slugs
Female 2 dropped 4 live , 1 stillborn and 30 slugs

Ever since then I refuse to swap males around and since I really got into selective breeding I take it to heart to put more focus on the project itself to get the results I want instead of chancing it just to produce something.

I know a couple guys that move their males from female to female as each female is done but it takes a lot out of some males and the results I've heard of and seen just isn't worth it to me. I know I have a couple boys that would breed themselves to death if I let them since they get so skinny just on one female. Our plans will have us holding back and growing spare males or just picking up unrelated ones for each project instead of wringing out our boys.

do you think if you had 2 or 3 males female#2 would have done better

BryonsBoas
10-26-2008, 05:00 AM
I think if I had devoted a male solely to to Female #2 the slug ratio to baby ratio would have been far better.

Sidviciouser
11-06-2008, 12:47 PM
Warning: Rookie spray

I have heard you can spread your male a further if you use ultrasound to know when the female is ready. Obviously less work for the male. Even at that I think it's one male to a female as a general rule for a good outcome.

I put one male with the female and wait till they are all done, and then wait a week after that to pull him out. If he is still in great shape and his weight is up, I would feed him up and put him with a second female after a quarantine period. Assuming of course that it fits into the projects I would like to see happen.