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147BOAS
03-29-2009, 02:30 PM
a morph that can be breed to a normal and the hatchling will be the morph
i dont know i know nothing about morphs in ball python i am new at it and thanks for all the info you can give me :yessir:

Tosha
03-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Any dominant or co-dom morph will produce morph offspring when bred to a normal. Statistically about half the clutch will be morph.

147BOAS
03-29-2009, 02:39 PM
Any dominant or co-dom morph will produce morph offspring when bred to a normal. Statistically about half the clutch will be morph.

thanks

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 03:41 PM
I agree with Tosha.....The Bumblebee bred to a normal would could give you 3 morphs Bee's, Spiders,Pastels and even normals...

147BOAS
03-29-2009, 03:44 PM
I agree with Tosha.....The Bumblebee bred to a normal would could give you 3 morphs Bee's, Spiders,Pastels and even normals...

thank you john

147BOAS
03-29-2009, 03:46 PM
yes but would you have to breed a male bumblebee to a female normal or the other way around or dont it matter

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 03:50 PM
yes but would you have to breed a male bumblebee to a female normal or the other way around or dont it matter

either way it would be the same chances

Tosha
03-29-2009, 03:51 PM
Genes are the same -- doesn't matter if they come from the mom or the dad -- but if you had a breeder sized Bumblebee female I doubt you'd be breeding her to a normal male.

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 03:54 PM
Yeah atleast throw in a nice male pastel and make some killers :rockon:...Thats if the Bumble bee is a female

147BOAS
03-29-2009, 04:01 PM
thank see i am not the best with genetics

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 04:03 PM
thank see i am not the best with genetics

I'm not either I'm sure if asked far enough out you'd lose me as well....I enjoy topics like this though :yessir:

tfs
03-29-2009, 04:04 PM
Andrew go to RDR matrix page and look under co dom and dom .
Do will reproduce itself 1st geneation with a normal .
Co dom will also and then 2 co doms bred together also produce a super .

The recessive take 2 generations to reproduce themselves .

147BOAS
03-29-2009, 04:05 PM
i like the look of the bumblebee also so that might be a good start for me now i have to find one

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 04:07 PM
I had a question not meaning to hi jack your thread Andrew.... I was wondering about Yellowbelly pastel bred to YellowBelly Pastel....What all could you get out of that???....I think I know but not 100% sure :lol:

147BOAS
03-29-2009, 04:19 PM
I had a question not meaning to hi jack your thread Andrew.... I was wondering about Yellowbelly pastel bred to YellowBelly Pastel....What all could you get out of that???....I think I know but not 100% sure :lol:

dont worry about it good question :lol:

Tosha
03-29-2009, 04:28 PM
Pastellowbelly x Pastellowbelly

6.25% Normal
12.5% Pastel
6.25 % Super Pastel
12.5 % Yellowbelly
25% YB Pastel
12.5% Yellowbelly super pastel
6.25 % Ivory
12.5 % Ivory pastel
6.25 % Ivory super pastel

:yessir:

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 04:33 PM
Pastellowbelly x Pastellowbelly

6.25% Normal
12.5% Pastel
6.25 % Super Pastel
12.5 % Yellowbelly
25% YB Pastel
12.5% Yellowbelly super pastel
6.25 % Ivory
12.5 % Ivory pastel
6.25 % Ivory super pastel

:yessir:


Thanks Tosha....The Ivory Super Pastel was the one I wasn't sure about....It seemed like the pair would make it...But I have never seen a picture of that of it though....I have been studying about doing a possible pair like this maybe...Thanks again :) I wanna get some yellow bellys regaurdless....I almost got a couple females today.....but I need to wait and see how bad taxes are gonna hurt me first :machinegun:

Larry
03-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Hey Andrew, this is what I can produce when breeding my little queenie to normals. All in the same clutch mind you.. This is why multi gene animals are so valuable.

Normals

Spiders
Lessers
Pastels

Pastel/spiders
Pastel/Lessers

Lesser/spiders
Lesser/spider/pastels

NoahHart
03-29-2009, 06:18 PM
Thanks Tosha....The Ivory Super Pastel was the one I wasn't sure about....It seemed like the pair would make it...But I have never seen a picture of that of it though....I have been studying about doing a possible pair like this maybe...Thanks again :) I wanna get some yellow bellys regaurdless....I almost got a couple females today.....but I need to wait and see how bad taxes are gonna hurt me first :machinegun:

There was a pic released for a short time then pulled from a forum and from the website it came from. Strange circumstances, and now there are rumors that it may be a genetic paradox animal. It was awesome looking for sure. Wish I had saved the pic.

147BOAS
03-29-2009, 06:25 PM
Hey Andrew, this is what I can produce when breeding my little queenie to normals. All in the same clutch mind you.. This is why multi gene animals are so valuable.

Normals

Spiders
Lessers
Pastels

Pastel/spiders
Pastel/Lessers

Lesser/spiders
Lesser/spider/pastels

wow i had no idea thanks

constrictorkeeper
03-29-2009, 06:27 PM
Thanks Tosha....The Ivory Super Pastel was the one I wasn't sure about....It seemed like the pair would make it...But I have never seen a picture of that of it though....I have been studying about doing a possible pair like this maybe...Thanks again :) I wanna get some yellow bellys regaurdless....I almost got a couple females today.....but I need to wait and see how bad taxes are gonna hurt me first :machinegun:

you'll have plenty of opportunity to get your YB's, and maybe even YB pastels from the looks of the ball breeding section so far this season bro.
sit tight for a few months, the world will be your oyster !
ck

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 06:34 PM
you'll have plenty of opportunity to get your YB's, and maybe even YB pastels from the looks of the ball breeding section so far this season bro.
sit tight for a few months, the world will be your oyster !
ck

I don't know after bosses post there that queenie ain't lookin to bad either....pretty sweet stuff right there :yessir: whats the chances on a loan from the bank of ck??? j/k :lol::lol:

Varanus99
03-29-2009, 07:19 PM
Andrew I dont know exactly what you have but if you have some normal female and get your hands on a male Bee you have lots of potential with that at a pretty reasonable price.

Varanus99
03-29-2009, 07:20 PM
Hey Andrew, this is what I can produce when breeding my little queenie to normals. All in the same clutch mind you.. This is why multi gene animals are so valuable.

Normals

Spiders
Lessers
Pastels

Pastel/spiders
Pastel/Lessers

Lesser/spiders
Lesser/spider/pastels


Thats freakin' awesome. Thats one of those Xmas morning clutches.

constrictorkeeper
03-29-2009, 07:30 PM
I don't know after bosses post there that queenie ain't lookin to bad either....pretty sweet stuff right there :yessir: whats the chances on a loan from the bank of ck??? j/k :lol::lol:

we're workin' on that bro...breeder loan that is !
if you play your cards right, you could borrow my yb pastel for your girls next season.
make your own yb pastels, bellybees, superpastel yb's, etc...
ck

JOHNS6068
03-29-2009, 07:43 PM
we're workin' on that bro...breeder loan that is !
if you play your cards right, you could borrow my yb pastel for your girls next season.
make your own yb pastels, bellybees, superpastel yb's, etc...
ck

First I gotta see if I can be Successful with my own :lol: I very much like the idea though :yessir:

147BOAS
04-28-2009, 08:20 PM
First I gotta see if I can be Successful with my own :lol: I very much like the idea though :yessir:

john you did it :lol:

JOHNS6068
04-29-2009, 12:11 AM
john you did it :lol:

They haven't hatched yet!!! I'm only 66% of the way there..... Man now you jinxed me :lol::lol: